Truths manifest revived, or, A farther discovery of Mr. Stucley and his churches causeless excommunication of Mrs. Mary Allein wherein the former narrative and observations on Mr. Stucleys sermon are reprinted, and his late scandulous pamphlet, falsly intituled Manifest truth, answered and refuted / by Tobie Allein ...
What visibility, or outward appearance of Religion ceased in my wife, except that she for just reasons, refused any longer to hold communion with Mr. Stucleys Church;
What visibility, or outward appearance of Religion ceased in my wife, except that she for just Reasons, refused any longer to hold communion with Mr. Stucleys Church;
and betook her self again to her former Pastor? It seems by this, that visible holiness ceaseth in all, that have no longer a mind to continue in their separation, what a reproach is here cast on all the Churches of Christ, that are not independent that there is no visible holinesse in the members of them:
and betook her self again to her former Pastor? It seems by this, that visible holiness ceases in all, that have no longer a mind to continue in their separation, what a reproach is Here cast on all the Churches of christ, that Are not independent that there is no visible holiness in the members of them:
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cannot a person outwardly close with Christ, except in Mr. Stucleys Church? must they needs be held to cast away Christs cords, to have broken the covenant with God,
cannot a person outwardly close with christ, except in Mr. Stucleys Church? must they needs be held to cast away Christ cords, to have broken the Covenant with God,
and neglected his house, that like not the wayes of Mr. Stucleys congregation? Reader, this might serve to satisfy the members of that Church, who were engaged as far as himself,
and neglected his house, that like not the ways of Mr. Stucleys congregation? Reader, this might serve to satisfy the members of that Church, who were engaged as Far as himself,
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Consider how Mr. Stucley applies, 2 Cor. 6.14, 15, 16. And to put it out of all doubt when I my self was reasoning with Mr. Stucley to this purpose, That I thought I might communicate in the Lords Supper with his Church,
Consider how Mr. Stucley Applies, 2 Cor. 6.14, 15, 16. And to put it out of all doubt when I my self was reasoning with Mr. Stucley to this purpose, That I Thought I might communicate in the lords Supper with his Church,
as Mr. Stucley himself, or the best of his Church. He stiles them Dogs, &c. Sol. 'Tis an Easie matter for Mr. Stucley, to call these poor oppressed women dogs, he and his Church onely, are the children and Saints;
as Mr. Stucley himself, or the best of his Church. He stile them Dogs, etc. Sol. It's an Easy matter for Mr. Stucley, to call these poor oppressed women Dogs, he and his Church only, Are the children and Saints;
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Pag. 9. Mr. Stucley cites Prov. 5.8, 9. Remove thy way, far from her, &c. And adds, that 'tis dangerous to come near the house of such, &c. Sol. What is this but to insinuate my wise, such a one as is spoken of in that place i. e. a very strumpet.
Page 9. Mr. Stucley cites Curae 5.8, 9. Remove thy Way, Far from her, etc. And adds, that it's dangerous to come near the house of such, etc. Sol. What is this but to insinuate my wise, such a one as is spoken of in that place i. e. a very strumpet.
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I cannot forbear to say (it so nearly concernes me) that this insinuation, is a base and slanderous belying her, who never came into the least suspition of any such crime, Had Mrs. Parr been guilty of such lying,
I cannot forbear to say (it so nearly concerns me) that this insinuation, is a base and slanderous belying her, who never Come into the least suspicion of any such crime, Had Mrs. Parr been guilty of such lying,
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Pag. 9. Whereas in the same page towards the end, Mr. Stucley saith, He ought to pull off the masking robes and vizards, &c. Sol. He discovers himself, what many before now never believed him to be (viz.) A man that cares not what dirt and filth he casts on any that cares not for his independent wayes.
Page 9. Whereas in the same page towards the end, Mr. Stucley Says, He ought to pull off the masking robes and vizards, etc. Sol. He discovers himself, what many before now never believed him to be (viz.) A man that Cares not what dirt and filth he Cast on any that Cares not for his independent ways.
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And now when they were disappointed, and so apprehended their over-sight, and went about to mend their fault, by returning to those congregations to which they formerly belonged, he judgeth them causelesly.
And now when they were disappointed, and so apprehended their oversight, and went about to mend their fault, by returning to those congregations to which they formerly belonged, he Judgeth them causelessly.
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Sol. I cannot forbear to say, this is a most notorious belying her, whom I know to be far otherwise, I have cause to blesse God for so good and obedient a wife,
Sol. I cannot forbear to say, this is a most notorious belying her, whom I know to be Far otherwise, I have cause to bless God for so good and obedient a wife,
Pag. 10. Again, These have turned their backs on pure ordinances, &c. Sol. As if no pure ordinances could be found, but in Mr. Stucleys Church, or some other of the same edition.
Page 10. Again, These have turned their backs on pure ordinances, etc. Sol. As if no pure ordinances could be found, but in Mr. Stucleys Church, or Some other of the same edition.
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Pag. 12. The like stuff you have page 12. That now my wife and Mrs. Parr are not in Mr. Stucleys Church, they are not amongst Gods people, Cannot enjoy the benefit of the covenant, See in what a sad condition all are, that are not Independents.
Page 12. The like stuff you have page 12. That now my wife and Mrs. Parr Are not in Mr. Stucleys Church, they Are not among God's people, Cannot enjoy the benefit of the Covenant, See in what a sad condition all Are, that Are not Independents.
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But for that which he so much commends, I do assure thee, neither I, nor my wife could ever see such eminency of godlynesse in their conversations, I shall not asperse them, I will onely say, I know many, very many no Independents in this City, of as unblameable and godly conversation as any of them,
But for that which he so much commends, I do assure thee, neither I, nor my wife could ever see such eminency of godliness in their conversations, I shall not asperse them, I will only say, I know many, very many no Independents in this city, of as unblameable and godly Conversation as any of them,
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Pag. 14. I have no mind to discant upon Mr. Stucleys fancy, in the fourteenth page, where he frames a parly between God and the Divel 'tis absurd enough.
Page 14. I have no mind to discant upon Mr. Stucleys fancy, in the fourteenth page, where he frames a parley between God and the devil it's absurd enough.
But I know many have been excommunicated by the Pope, and some by the Pharisees, The question is whether those persons were justly excommunicated? And that I deny,
But I know many have been excommunicated by the Pope, and Some by the Pharisees, The question is whither those Persons were justly excommunicated? And that I deny,
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Pag. 17. Whereas contumacy is urged as the reason of excommunication, and Mr. Rutherford is quoted, with a sufficient slur upon him and the Presbyterians.
Page 17. Whereas contumacy is urged as the reason of excommunication, and Mr. Rutherford is quoted, with a sufficient slur upon him and the Presbyterians.
For her pretended scandalous running from me, I have given a satisfactory answer in the Narrative by which the Reader may judge what a scandalous abusing her it is, to charge her with deserting her husband,
For her pretended scandalous running from me, I have given a satisfactory answer in the Narrative by which the Reader may judge what a scandalous abusing her it is, to charge her with deserting her husband,
but onely went as far as Huniton with a purpose to go as far as Taunton, There to intreat the advise and assistance of some near relations for satisfaction touching those differences, occasioned upon her deserting their Church.
but only went as Far as Huniton with a purpose to go as Far as Taunton, There to entreat the Advice and assistance of Some near relations for satisfaction touching those differences, occasioned upon her deserting their Church.
Sol. I answer that the woman hath been her keeper for many years in child-bed, as she was of many other women of good account and quality in this City,
Sol. I answer that the woman hath been her keeper for many Years in childbed, as she was of many other women of good account and quality in this city,
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but do very much abuse and slander her therein. Pag. 19.20. When Mr. Stucley presses Tit. 2.5. Know Reader that he hath omitted somewhat that he spake in preaching to insinuate into his Auditory a suspition of my wifes chastity, wherein he did most unworthily abuse her.
but do very much abuse and slander her therein. Page 19.20. When Mr. Stucley presses Tit. 2.5. Know Reader that he hath omitted somewhat that he spoke in preaching to insinuate into his Auditory a suspicion of my wives chastity, wherein he did most unworthily abuse her.
to insinuate her to affect merriment, and expensive company, and account the house a prison which I can truly say she is so far from as (if comparisons be not odious) I know none farther; and she utterly detests it.
to insinuate her to affect merriment, and expensive company, and account the house a prison which I can truly say she is so Far from as (if comparisons be not odious) I know none farther; and she utterly detests it.
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That which followes is to the same Tune, All that I will say is, that it is clean contrary, she never look't on me as a Nabal, but hath ever shewed me as much tendernes;
That which follows is to the same Tune, All that I will say is, that it is clean contrary, she never looked on me as a Nabal, but hath ever showed me as much tenderness;
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she never left her trust, otherwise then any good housewife must do, when she is forc't to be from home, she went out in a journey, which she intended to dispatch with all speed,
she never left her trust, otherwise then any good housewife must do, when she is forced to be from home, she went out in a journey, which she intended to dispatch with all speed,
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For Mrs. Parr who is charged with lying, &c. you may see by what is said in the end of the 20. page, she was not well pleased with the proceedings of Master Stucleys Church,
For Mrs. Parr who is charged with lying, etc. you may see by what is said in the end of the 20. page, she was not well pleased with the proceedings of Master Stucleys Church,
and here began the quarrel which could not be ended but in her Excommunication, because she was peremptorie in her resolution, not to be tyed from hearing of others;
and Here began the quarrel which could not be ended but in her Excommunication, Because she was peremptory in her resolution, not to be tied from hearing of Others;
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how far she might forget her self in discourse with them, which they call tripping in her tongue, &c. I cannot say, onely (if she did) it was partly occasioned by their tampering with her,
how Far she might forget her self in discourse with them, which they call tripping in her tongue, etc. I cannot say, only (if she did) it was partly occasioned by their tampering with her,
as she chose to leave Mr. Stucleys Church, and so did, and was in communion with other Churches in this City for a long time before they excommunicated her.
as she chosen to leave Mr. Stucleys Church, and so did, and was in communion with other Churches in this city for a long time before they excommunicated her.
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Sol. It is observable indeed how Mr. Stucley persists in his unworthy design and endeavours to slur and vilifie her, whom (whatever malice saies) I have cause to say to the glory of grace, God hath blest with some good measure of knowledge of him and his will,
Sol. It is observable indeed how Mr. Stucley persists in his unworthy Design and endeavours to slur and vilify her, whom (whatever malice Says) I have cause to say to the glory of grace, God hath blessed with Some good measure of knowledge of him and his will,
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and of her self, and her duty, which she hath manifested in the general course of her conversation (the best character of a Christian) as all that know her, can bear her witnesse.
and of her self, and her duty, which she hath manifested in the general course of her Conversation (the best character of a Christian) as all that know her, can bear her witness.
and desiring their good, and thriving in their Trade, and knowing their gains, ad observing her sister in Law not to be so careful and industrious as she should be,
and desiring their good, and thriving in their Trade, and knowing their gains, and observing her sister in Law not to be so careful and Industria as she should be,
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and as that Trade required, and their expenses rising somewhat high, she advised her said sister, to have a care that they did not spend more then they got, whereat her sister took great distaste,
and as that Trade required, and their expenses rising somewhat high, she advised her said sister, to have a care that they did not spend more then they god, whereat her sister took great distaste,
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and her said sister being much offended as it, instead of imbracing this counsel, which would have done her no hurt, she complains to several of the members of Master Stucleys Church,
and her said sister being much offended as it, instead of embracing this counsel, which would have done her no hurt, she complains to several of the members of Master Stucleys Church,
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and had engaged a strong partie for her, before my Wife knew thereof, insomuch that it came to a hearing before Master Stucley, and by his means they were reconciled and in token thereof, kissed each other,
and had engaged a strong party for her, before my Wife knew thereof, insomuch that it Come to a hearing before Master Stucley, and by his means they were reconciled and in token thereof, kissed each other,
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But I wonder not at it, when I consider how suitable it is, to what himself once told me upon occasion of writing a Letter to Mrs. Parr, That when he wrote Letters of that nature, he would have as much of reflection in them,
But I wonder not At it, when I Consider how suitable it is, to what himself once told me upon occasion of writing a letter to Mrs. Parr, That when he wrote Letters of that nature, he would have as much of reflection in them,
Pag. 23. Whereas Mr. Stucley. pag. 23. in his comparing her sin, with the sin of the incestuous person, saith, The incestuous person did not separate from the Church to avoid the censure, but so have these, &c. Sol. Reader, take notice of a grosse untruth:
Page 23. Whereas Mr. Stucley. page. 23. in his comparing her since, with the since of the incestuous person, Says, The incestuous person did not separate from the Church to avoid the censure, but so have these, etc. Sol. Reader, take notice of a gross untruth:
whereas, (themselves being judges) they had nothing to censure her for, before she left them, they never so much as pretended any cause or ground for a censure untill she had deserted them,
whereas, (themselves being judges) they had nothing to censure her for, before she left them, they never so much as pretended any cause or ground for a censure until she had deserted them,
Sol. I confesse they have relinquished Mr. Stucleys Church, and thats their fault, and yet I dare assure you, my Wife had not done this had they not meddled with state affairs,
Sol. I confess they have relinquished Mr. Stucleys Church, and thats their fault, and yet I Dare assure you, my Wife had not done this had they not meddled with state affairs,
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They held it their sin to be tied to one Congregation, and to be debarred fellowship with others, especially there being so many opportunities of it in this place.
They held it their since to be tied to one Congregation, and to be debarred fellowship with Others, especially there being so many opportunities of it in this place.
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I do not pretend to so much knowledge and learning, as to meddle at all with it, onely I wish, that they were all free from lying, that Master Stucley gives the Sacrament unto in his Church, I know none thats offended at their exercise of discipline, onely I,
I do not pretend to so much knowledge and learning, as to meddle At all with it, only I wish, that they were all free from lying, that Master Stucley gives the Sacrament unto in his Church, I know none thats offended At their exercise of discipline, only I,
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made as the Scum and off-scouring of all things, by his and his Churches abusing of Gods holy Ordinance, hoping the wise disposer of all things will order it to their spiritual advantage, by giving them grace to cleave to God,
made as the Scum and offscouring of all things, by his and his Churches abusing of God's holy Ordinance, hoping the wise disposer of all things will order it to their spiritual advantage, by giving them grace to cleave to God,
For the last use of Exhortation, I must needs say it is very proper for himself & his Church, I wish them to take it home to themselves, they have need enough of it, tis very true,
For the last use of Exhortation, I must needs say it is very proper for himself & his Church, I wish them to take it home to themselves, they have need enough of it, this very true,
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but are too well acquainted with their great thoughts they have of themselves, as the onely Church and people of God in Exon, and what other Churches have been called and counted by them, That God will in due time discover the hypocrisie of lyars I know well,
but Are too well acquainted with their great thoughts they have of themselves, as the only Church and people of God in Exon, and what other Churches have been called and counted by them, That God will in due time discover the hypocrisy of liars I know well,
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for my Wife, I know she hath kept her bounds at home so well, as I desire nothing more then her perseverance in that obedience and duty she hath yielded me hitherto.
for my Wife, I know she hath kept her bounds At home so well, as I desire nothing more then her perseverance in that Obedience and duty she hath yielded me hitherto.
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