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There is a little Pamphles extent, called, Supplementum sublatum, in answer to Mr. Tombes, by Richard Hubberthorne, in a Samuel Fisher, who deny that these expressions, I affirme before God. God is witness, &c. are Oaths, because were these Oaths, then the Apostle did Swear frequently and unnecessarily, in respect his credit was so good amongst the Saints to whom he did wri•e, that his words would have been taken at any time without an Oath. I answer, That though he swore several times, yet never unnecessarily. For had he not judged those Oaths necessary, he would not have used them. And he knew better in what credit he was with his Countrymen, than either Mr. Hubber thorne or Mr. Fisher I am sure St. Austin was not of •ha• jud•ement, For he sayes (•erm. 28. de verbis Apost.) Videbat ibi, (that is amongst the Galations to whom he had used this expression behold before God I lye not, Gal. 1. 20) eos qui•e edebant, videbat & alios qui non credebant. Thus St. Aust•n with an unde•iable, evidence of Reason. For if all had so readily beleeved his word, how came it to p•ss that some, even of the beleevers, disputed against his Doctrine? Acts 15 Or what occ•si•n bad there been for him to have written (as he does Rom. 9. 1.) I say the truth in Christ, (or, by Christ) I lye not? Which translation (by Christ) Mr. Fisher in his Antidote carps at, because it is in Greek NONLATINALPHABET. And yet it is the same word, (as he knows, I doubt not) that is h•re translated by Heaven, by Earth, &c. Mat. 5. 34. 35. 36. But not to digress, it is not probable to be as they imagine: For were their A•gument good, as there had been no need of such Oaths, so neither of such vehement Asseverations, as they themselves take these to be. And then i• would follow, that the Apostle writ what he needed not, which to assert savours of blasphemy, if we grant that be writ by inspiration from the holy Ghost. But if these be Oaths, how is it (say they) that the Judges and Justices in Sessions will not own them as so —? And then they triumph saying, Surely the Magistrate in England doe not believe the Priests Doctrine. I answer, (1.) I have heard a great Magistrate say, That such Oaths should be accepted by him. (2) I suppose that they are accepted by such as be in Authority so to do, when they are persuaded of the fidelity of the Swearer. For I have it under the hand of Mr. Isaac Pennington (one of the most considerable of that Fraternity) that he once gave satisfaction, which he heard found acceptance with the Court to which he gave it, and also to the King, &c. (3.) The same I. P. gives a Reason why that savour is not indulged to all. His own expressions are these, (Many words have been spoken by severall eminent Persons (as hath been often related to me) of their belief and satisfaction in relation to our words, and a good inclination in them several times to accept thereof in stead of an Oath, if they knew but how to exclude others from the like indulgence, whom they were more jealous of. (4ly.) Inferiour Magistrates (such as they speak of) are sworn to act according to Law: And the Law prescribes (as I understand) in what manner, and with what formality Oaths are to be taken, which it is not in their power to dispense with, or vary from pro arbitrio. And therefore though they firmely believe that calling God to witness is an Oath; yet they are not at liberty to accept thereof, because they are tied up to Rules of Law. And of this me thinks Mr. H. and Mr. F. should not be ignorant, and if they were not, then this Quaere were needless. Lastly, they argue thus, If to say God knows, or God is witness, as in appeal to Gods contestation be Swearing by God; then to say such a man knows, or such a man is witness to the truth of what I say as an appeal to that mans contestation is Swearing by that man. And then they cry out upon such an absurdity. 'Tis strange that men of Parts, and Reason should be so deluded. They migh• •t well have argued, That if a Man may lawfully marry a Woman, then a Man may lawfully marry a Beast. I say as well. For as the Essence of lawfull Matrimony consists in the mutuall agreement betwixt a Man and a Woman; and not betwixt a Man and a Beast: so the Essence of a lawfull Oath consists in calling God to wi•ness, not in calling Man to witness. I beseech God to open their eyes, that they may discern into what absurdities they fall, whilst they v•••ly dream of putting absurdities upon others. |
There is a little Pamphles extent, called, Supplement Sublatum, in answer to Mr. Tombs, by Richard Hubberthorne, in a Samuel Fisher, who deny that these expressions, I affirm before God. God is witness, etc. Are Oaths, Because were these Oaths, then the Apostle did Swear frequently and unnecessarily, in respect his credit was so good among the Saints to whom he did wri•e, that his words would have been taken At any time without an Oath. I answer, That though he swore several times, yet never unnecessarily. For had he not judged those Oaths necessary, he would not have used them. And he knew better in what credit he was with his Countrymen, than either Mr. Hubber thorn or Mr. Fisher I am sure Saint Austin was not of •ha• jud•ement, For he Says (•erm. 28. de verbis Apost.) Videbat There, (that is among the Galatians to whom he had used this expression behold before God I lie not, Gal. 1. 20) eos qui•e Edged, videbat & Alioth qui non Credebant. Thus Saint Aust•n with an unde•iable, evidence of Reason. For if all had so readily believed his word, how Come it to p•ss that Some, even of the believers, disputed against his Doctrine? Acts 15 Or what occ•si•n bade there been for him to have written (as he does Rom. 9. 1.) I say the truth in christ, (or, by christ) I lie not? Which Translation (by christ) Mr. Fisher in his Antidote carps At, Because it is in Greek. And yet it is the same word, (as he knows, I doubt not) that is h•re translated by Heaven, by Earth, etc. Mathew 5. 34. 35. 36. But not to digress, it is not probable to be as they imagine: For were their A•gument good, as there had been no need of such Oaths, so neither of such vehement Asseverations, as they themselves take these to be. And then i• would follow, that the Apostle writ what he needed not, which to assert savours of blasphemy, if we grant that be writ by inspiration from the holy Ghost. But if these be Oaths, how is it (say they) that the Judges and Justices in Sessions will not own them as so —? And then they triumph saying, Surely the Magistrate in England do not believe the Priests Doctrine. I answer, (1.) I have herd a great Magistrate say, That such Oaths should be accepted by him. (2) I suppose that they Are accepted by such as be in authority so to do, when they Are persuaded of the Fidis of the Swearer. For I have it under the hand of Mr. Isaac Pennington (one of the most considerable of that Fraternity) that he once gave satisfaction, which he herd found acceptance with the Court to which he gave it, and also to the King, etc. (3.) The same I. P. gives a Reason why that savour is not indulged to all. His own expressions Are these, (Many words have been spoken by several eminent Persons (as hath been often related to me) of their belief and satisfaction in Relation to our words, and a good inclination in them several times to accept thereof in stead of an Oath, if they knew but how to exclude Others from the like indulgence, whom they were more jealous of. (4ly.) Inferior Magistrates (such as they speak of) Are sworn to act according to Law: And the Law prescribes (as I understand) in what manner, and with what formality Oaths Are to be taken, which it is not in their power to dispense with, or vary from Pro arbitrio. And Therefore though they firmly believe that calling God to witness is an Oath; yet they Are not At liberty to accept thereof, Because they Are tied up to Rules of Law. And of this me thinks Mr. H. and Mr. F. should not be ignorant, and if they were not, then this Quaere were needless. Lastly, they argue thus, If to say God knows, or God is witness, as in appeal to God's contestation be Swearing by God; then to say such a man knows, or such a man is witness to the truth of what I say as an appeal to that men contestation is Swearing by that man. And then they cry out upon such an absurdity. It's strange that men of Parts, and Reason should be so deluded. They migh• •t well have argued, That if a Man may lawfully marry a Woman, then a Man may lawfully marry a Beast. I say as well. For as the Essence of lawful Matrimony consists in the mutual agreement betwixt a Man and a Woman; and not betwixt a Man and a Beast: so the Essence of a lawful Oath consists in calling God to wi•ness, not in calling Man to witness. I beseech God to open their eyes, that they may discern into what absurdities they fallen, while they v•••ly dream of putting absurdities upon Others. |
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