A reverse to Mr. Oliver's sermon of spiritual worship a sermon on the same subject preached before the Lord Mayor, at St. Paul's Church, August 26th. 1660 / by Matthew Poole now reprinted and may serve as an answer to the aforesaid sermon.
She falls not into curious and unprofitable questions, in which she might have looked for satisfaction from a Prophet, about the length of her days, number of her children, condition of life;
She falls not into curious and unprofitable questions, in which she might have looked for satisfaction from a Prophet, about the length of her days, number of her children, condition of life;
This is that which (at first conversion especially) most fills head and heart, Acts 16.30. Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And it is a sign of a desperate state, to be careless and contentedly ignorant in the concernments of the soul. To proceed:
This is that which (At First conversion especially) most fills head and heart, Acts 16.30. Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And it is a Signen of a desperate state, to be careless and contentedly ignorant in the concernments of the soul. To proceed:
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The Indian hearing his Ancestors were in Hell, said then he would go thither. This was the NONLATINALPHABET of the Jews, which led them into many miscarriages, Jer. 44.17. We will bake cakes to the Queen of Heaven — as we have done, we and our Fathers.
The Indian hearing his Ancestors were in Hell, said then he would go thither. This was the of the jews, which led them into many miscarriages, Jer. 44.17. We will bake cakes to the Queen of Heaven — as we have done, we and our Father's.
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The Prophet Jeremy, when he speaks of the conversion of the Gentiles, he tells you they shall relinquish the opinions of their Ancestors, Jer. 16.19. — The Gentiles shall come unto thee — and shall say, Our Fathers inherited lyes.
The Prophet Jeremiah, when he speaks of the conversion of the Gentiles, he tells you they shall relinquish the opinions of their Ancestors, Jer. 16.19. — The Gentiles shall come unto thee — and shall say, Our Father's inherited lies.
You are not to pin your faith upon your father's sleeve. Isaiah sends them to the Law and Testimony, not to Fathers, Isa. 8.20. Your fathers were men, Humanum est errare. Forsake not Fountains for Cisterns.
You Are not to pin your faith upon your Father's sleeve. Isaiah sends them to the Law and Testimony, not to Father's, Isaiah 8.20. Your Father's were men, Humanum est errare. Forsake not Fountains for Cisterns.
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The Question was about the Place of Worship, whether in this Mount, and that was the Mount of Gertz•m, where the Samaritans Temple had stood for a long time, the Mount where her Ancestors used to worship God,
The Question was about the Place of Worship, whither in this Mount, and that was the Mount of Gertz•m, where the Samaritans Temple had stood for a long time, the Mount where her Ancestors used to worship God,
All places shall be alike as to holiness, (though not as to conveniency for meeting together.) It is an Aphorism of some men, that time and place are circumstances of the same consideration in the worship of God:
All places shall be alike as to holiness, (though not as to conveniency for meeting together.) It is an Aphorism of Some men, that time and place Are Circumstances of the same consideration in the worship of God:
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We know what we worship, for Salvation is of the Jews. The way and doctrine of Salvation is revealed to them by the Author of Salvation: You grope in the dark.
We know what we worship, for Salvation is of the jews. The Way and Doctrine of Salvation is revealed to them by the Author of Salvation: You grope in the dark.
The 1. respects the subject of worship, and that is opposed unto those who worship God only with their bodies, whose hearts and souls do not concur with them, who draw nigh to God with their lips,
The 1. respects the Subject of worship, and that is opposed unto those who worship God only with their bodies, whose hearts and Souls do not concur with them, who draw High to God with their lips,
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but to the body of worship, or to a bodily and carnal way of worship, called bodily exercise, 1 Tim. 4.8. Bodily exercise profiteth little: And this is that which is here intended, q d. The time was when the worship of God did consist, in a great measure, in external Rites and Ceremonies.
but to the body of worship, or to a bodily and carnal Way of worship, called bodily exercise, 1 Tim. 4.8. Bodily exercise profiteth little: And this is that which is Here intended, q worser. The time was when the worship of God did consist, in a great measure, in external Rites and Ceremonies.
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Secondly, In Truth may be opposed to two things. 1. Truth is opposed to Lying or Dissembling, Phil. 1.18. Whether in pretence or in truth, Christ is preached. Josh. 24.19. Serve him in sincerity and truth.
Secondly, In Truth may be opposed to two things. 1. Truth is opposed to Lying or Dissembling, Philip 1.18. Whither in pretence or in truth, christ is preached. Josh. 24.19. Serve him in sincerity and truth.
or the Grace of God in Truth, in substance, not in shadow, it was not only typified and shadowed as that which should be given hereafter (some foretasts whereof they only had by drops) but really and plentifully exhibited:
or the Grace of God in Truth, in substance, not in shadow, it was not only typified and shadowed as that which should be given hereafter (Some foretastes whereof they only had by drops) but really and plentifully exhibited:
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And thus not to distract your heads with the various Interpretations of others, you see the plain meaning in spirit, in opposition to corporeal and carnal Sacrifices:
And thus not to distract your Heads with the various Interpretations of Others, you see the plain meaning in Spirit, in opposition to corporeal and carnal Sacrifices:
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So that now way being made, I shall come to that one Doctrine which I intend to discourse of (omitting others which might be pertinently and profitably raised) and that is this:
So that now Way being made, I shall come to that one Doctrine which I intend to discourse of (omitting Others which might be pertinently and profitably raised) and that is this:
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The first thing God looks at, is the person of the Worshipper, &c. God had respect unto Abel (first) and to his offering, Gen. 4. NONLATINALPHABET. A carnal person's Worship is never accepted, They that are in the flesh cannot please God, Rom. 8.9. where being in the flesh is opposed unto being in the Spirit, or being a spiritually minded person:
The First thing God looks At, is the person of the Worshipper, etc. God had respect unto Abel (First) and to his offering, Gen. 4.. A carnal person's Worship is never accepted, They that Are in the Flesh cannot please God, Rom. 8.9. where being in the Flesh is opposed unto being in the Spirit, or being a spiritually minded person:
Therefore St. Peter tells the Jews, 1 Pet. 2.5. Ye also as lively stones are built up a spiritual house, an holy Priesthood, to offer up spiritual Sacrifices.
Therefore Saint Peter tells the jews, 1 Pet. 2.5. You also as lively stones Are built up a spiritual house, an holy Priesthood, to offer up spiritual Sacrifices.
A man must be translated from darkness to light, he must be a spiritual person, partaker of the Holy Ghost, filled with the fruits of the Spirit, under the conduct and command of God's Spirit,
A man must be translated from darkness to Light, he must be a spiritual person, partaker of the Holy Ghost, filled with the fruits of the Spirit, under the conduct and command of God's Spirit,
nor chiefly, &c. This God expects in all things: In Preaching, Acts 18.25. Apollos being fervent in Spirit, spake and taught. In Praying, 1 Cor. 14.14. My Spirit prayeth. Eph. 6.18. — Praying in the Spirit, unless that be meant of the Spirit of God. Heb. 10.22. Let us draw near with a true Heart.
nor chiefly, etc. This God expects in all things: In Preaching, Acts 18.25. Apollos being fervent in Spirit, spoke and taught. In Praying, 1 Cor. 14.14. My Spirit Prayeth. Ephesians 6.18. — Praying in the Spirit, unless that be meant of the Spirit of God. Hebrew 10.22. Let us draw near with a true Heart.
and Privileges, &c. A man's end must not be, I. Sinful and Devilish, that he may have the greater advantage to do mischief, Mat. 23.14. You devour Widows Houses, and for a Pretence make long Prayers.
and Privileges, etc. A Man's end must not be, I. Sinful and Devilish, that he may have the greater advantage to do mischief, Mathew 23.14. You devour Widows Houses, and for a Pretence make long Prayers.
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II. Nor Worldly and Carnal, to procure some worldly Good: As they in Hosea 7.14. That cried unto God, and howled upon their Beds for their Corn and Wine.
II Nor Worldly and Carnal, to procure Some worldly Good: As they in Hosea 7.14. That cried unto God, and howled upon their Beds for their Corn and Wine.
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Or like the Pharisees, that loved to pray, standing in the Synagogues and in the Corners of the Streets, that they may be seen of Men, Mat. 6.5. III.
Or like the Pharisees, that loved to pray, standing in the Synagogues and in the Corners of the Streets, that they may be seen of Men, Mathew 6.5. III.
so are these carried to Ordinances, by the custom of the place, and the examples of their neighbours, fitly compared unto the waves of the Sea, James 1. which have no certain order,
so Are these carried to Ordinances, by the custom of the place, and the Examples of their neighbours, fitly compared unto the waves of the Sea, James 1. which have no certain order,
2. Because the pleasing of God is our business, it is the NONLATINALPHABET, or great work of a sincere Christian, Heb. 11.5. He had this Testimony, that he pleased God.
2. Because the pleasing of God is our business, it is the, or great work of a sincere Christian, Hebrew 11.5. He had this Testimony, that he pleased God.
Nay, even in the time of the Law, see how slightingly God speaks of ceremonial Worship (which the Jews did so highly magnifie) Psal. 69.30, 31. I will praise the Name of God with a Song, — This also shall please the Lord better than an Ox or Bullock. Psal. 40.6. Sacrifice and Offering thou didst not desire, mine ear hast thou opened, to hear instruction, to obey, &c. or bored to be thy faithful Servant.
Nay, even in the time of the Law, see how slightingly God speaks of ceremonial Worship (which the jews did so highly magnify) Psalm 69.30, 31. I will praise the Name of God with a Song, — This also shall please the Lord better than an Ox or Bullock. Psalm 40.6. Sacrifice and Offering thou didst not desire, mine ear hast thou opened, to hear instruction, to obey, etc. or bored to be thy faithful Servant.
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3. Because spiritual Worship is the most perfect Worship: We owe to God the most perfect Worship, Mal. 1.14. Cursed be that deceiver, that having in his flock a Male, sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing.
3. Because spiritual Worship is the most perfect Worship: We owe to God the most perfect Worship, Malachi 1.14. Cursed be that deceiver, that having in his flock a Male, Sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing.
You will say, But was not God a Spirit under the Old Testament, as well as now? And therefore by this Argument it should have been as much spiritual then,
You will say, But was not God a Spirit under the Old Testament, as well as now? And Therefore by this Argument it should have been as much spiritual then,
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1. I might say as the Apostle, Rom. 9. Nay but O man, who art thou that repliest against God? against Christ? If Christ urge this Argument for a more spiritual worship under the Gospel than that was under the Law,
1. I might say as the Apostle, Rom. 9. Nay but Oh man, who art thou that repliest against God? against christ? If christ urge this Argument for a more spiritual worship under the Gospel than that was under the Law,
2. Although the nature of God did then require spiritual worship (and that he had under the Law, to obey is better than Sacrifice, 1 Sam. 15.) yet he was pleased to make an allowance and indulgence of a ceremonial worship, in condescention to the weakness of the Jews, and the Infant-state of the Church, who else would have been very prone to a compliance with Idolaters,
2. Although the nature of God did then require spiritual worship (and that he had under the Law, to obey is better than Sacrifice, 1 Sam. 15.) yet he was pleased to make an allowance and indulgence of a ceremonial worship, in condescension to the weakness of the jews, and the Infant state of the Church, who Else would have been very prove to a compliance with Idolaters,
and might shew him that was to come, and to reserve the honour of a more perfect and spiritual way of worship to the coming of his Son, the Sun of righteousness, by whom those shadows were to be scattered:
and might show him that was to come, and to reserve the honour of a more perfect and spiritual Way of worship to the coming of his Son, the Sun of righteousness, by whom those shadows were to be scattered:
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But now when these reasons were ceased, Christ reduceth them to the original rule of worship, viz. the Nature of God, &c. Even as in the case of Marriage, notwithstanding the first Institution, Gen. 2. God was pleased to dispense with,
But now when these Reasons were ceased, christ reduceth them to the original Rule of worship, viz. the Nature of God, etc. Even as in the case of Marriage, notwithstanding the First Institution, Gen. 2. God was pleased to dispense with,
This is Finis operis & operantis too, (if a man be sincere) Psal. 19.14. Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight.
This is Finis operis & operantis too, (if a man be sincere) Psalm 19.14. Let the words of my Mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sighed.
Now how is that done? Do you think that it makes God glorious, when men seek to honour him with bodily and external Services? No, you cannot dishonour God more,
Now how is that done? Do you think that it makes God glorious, when men seek to honour him with bodily and external Services? No, you cannot dishonour God more,
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than by giving him such a Worship as begets a carnal representation of God, &c. And when God would set himself forth in his Glory, he represents himself in a spiritual manner,
than by giving him such a Worship as begets a carnal representation of God, etc. And when God would Set himself forth in his Glory, he represents himself in a spiritual manner,
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And for such as are of moderate Spirits and Principles, that can retain their own Principles without the ruine of all that differ from them, I speak not a word to them:
And for such as Are of moderate Spirits and Principles, that can retain their own Principles without the ruin of all that differ from them, I speak not a word to them:
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nor wit to understand any thing that differs from their pre-conceived Opinions. In the first place I shall appeal to the Text; let that umpire the business:
nor wit to understand any thing that differs from their preconceived Opinions. In the First place I shall appeal to the Text; let that umpire the business:
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I am not ignorant that it is frequently said by Papists and others, that this Text is impertinently urged against Ceremonies in Christian Churches: And it is soon said;
I am not ignorant that it is frequently said by Papists and Others, that this Text is impertinently urged against Ceremonies in Christian Churches: And it is soon said;
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So that all their Evasion is built upon this most false Supposition, that the Jews were not taught to joyn the soul and spiritual worship with external and Ceremonial, contrary to 1 Sam. 15. Hath the Lord any pleasure in Sacrifice? Behold, to obey is better than Sacrifice.
So that all their Evasion is built upon this most false Supposition, that the jews were not taught to join the soul and spiritual worship with external and Ceremonial, contrary to 1 Sam. 15. Hath the Lord any pleasure in Sacrifice? Behold, to obey is better than Sacrifice.
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and walk humbly with thy God? It is therefore a most gross mistake to fancy that the Jews were not taught to joyn the soul with their external performances.
and walk humbly with thy God? It is Therefore a most gross mistake to fancy that the jews were not taught to join the soul with their external performances.
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and the Christian must differ from it in this particular, it is clearly implied that that shall be free from such ceremonial Institutions wherewith the other was loaded, and shall be managed with simplicity and spirituality.
and the Christian must differ from it in this particular, it is clearly implied that that shall be free from such ceremonial Institutions wherewith the other was loaded, and shall be managed with simplicity and spirituality.
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To this Argument of the Text, give me leave to add four or five considerable Inconveniences, which follow from the Introduction, affectation and imposition of a Ceremonial way of worship under the Gospel.
To this Argument of the Text, give me leave to add four or five considerable Inconveniences, which follow from the Introduction, affectation and imposition of a Ceremonial Way of worship under the Gospel.
I shall offer only one place to your perusal, Heb. 7.18. For there is verily a disanulling of the former Commandment going before, (that is, of the Ceremonial Law,) for the we kness and unprofitableness thereof; i. e.
I shall offer only one place to your perusal, Hebrew 7.18. For there is verily a Disannulling of the former Commandment going before, (that is, of the Ceremonial Law,) for the we kness and unprofitableness thereof; i. e.
without respect to Christ they were altogether useless, and the typical use being gone, therefore were they laid aside, &c. And shall we go and set up other things equally unprofitable? Shall we lay aside God's Ordinances because they were unprofitable,
without respect to christ they were altogether useless, and the typical use being gone, Therefore were they laid aside, etc. And shall we go and Set up other things equally unprofitable? Shall we lay aside God's Ordinances Because they were unprofitable,
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Better all the Organs in the world broken, all material Temples level'd with the ground, all sacred Garments (as they are accounted) of Ministers, cast into a fire, than one soul lost.
Better all the Organs in the world broken, all material Temples leveled with the ground, all sacred Garments (as they Are accounted) of Ministers, cast into a fire, than one soul lost.
Now I beseech you mark how much this differs from the Apostolical Precept and Practise, Rom. 15.2. Let no man please himself, but let every one please his neighbour for his good to edification, 2 Cor. 13.10. — According to the power which the Lord hath given me for edification not to destruction.
Now I beseech you mark how much this differs from the Apostolical Precept and practice, Rom. 15.2. Let no man please himself, but let every one please his neighbour for his good to edification, 2 Cor. 13.10. — According to the power which the Lord hath given me for edification not to destruction.
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And although it be a truth that all things in the Church must be done decently and in order, Yet I am sure the order of the Church must give place to edification,
And although it be a truth that all things in the Church must be done decently and in order, Yet I am sure the order of the Church must give place to edification,
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But as we say to the Romanists, they charge us with Schism, but are themselves guilty, by imposing such heavy and unnecessary Burdens as forced us to depart,
But as we say to the Romanists, they charge us with Schism, but Are themselves guilty, by imposing such heavy and unnecessary Burdens as forced us to depart,
and the rejoycing of our Enemies. The Peace of the Church should be highly prized. How earnestly and frequently doth the Apostle conjure us to this: F•llo• peace with all men. Seek peace and ensue it.
and the rejoicing of our Enemies. The Peace of the Church should be highly prized. How earnestly and frequently does the Apostle conjure us to this: F•llo• peace with all men. Seek peace and ensue it.
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I submit this Query to all ingenuous and judicious Men, Whether it were not more prudent and pious for the Church to lay such Ceremonies aside, which will be a wall of partition between us and other Churches,
I submit this Query to all ingenuous and judicious Men, Whither it were not more prudent and pious for the Church to lay such Ceremonies aside, which will be a wall of partition between us and other Churches,
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and a stone of stumbling, and occasion of quarrel among our selves, than continue them upon such dangerous and uncomfortable terms? In things indifferent the Apostle exceedingly presseth a yielding to weak brethren, not offending, grieving one of those for whom Christ died:
and a stone of stumbling, and occasion of quarrel among our selves, than continue them upon such dangerous and uncomfortable terms? In things indifferent the Apostle exceedingly Presseth a yielding to weak brothers, not offending, grieving one of those for whom christ died:
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So Christ, not to offend one of these little ones, &c. Now it is certain many thousands of sincere Christians are grieved and stumbled at these things.
So christ, not to offend one of these little ones, etc. Now it is certain many thousands of sincere Christians Are grieved and stumbled At these things.
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And it is strange to see that this is made an Argument for Ceremonies, because else we shall offend the Papists (a sort of obstinate and hardned enemies, who will be offended, whatever you do, who are the more hardned by our compliance with them in worship,
And it is strange to see that this is made an Argument for Ceremonies, Because Else we shall offend the Papists (a sort of obstinate and hardened enemies, who will be offended, whatever you do, who Are the more hardened by our compliance with them in worship,
or musical sounds in Churches, doth not tickle the fancy with a carnal delight, and engage a man's ear and most diligent attention unto those sensible motions and audible sounds,
or musical sounds in Churches, does not tickle the fancy with a carnal delight, and engage a Man's ear and most diligent attention unto those sensible motions and audible sounds,
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but legenti similior quam canenti: And Paul himself gives it a wipe, Eph. 5.19. Speaking to your selves in Psalms, and Hymns, and spiritual Songs, making melo•y in your hearts to the Lord.
but legenti similior quam canenti: And Paul himself gives it a wipe, Ephesians 5.19. Speaking to your selves in Psalms, and Hymns, and spiritual Songs, making melo•y in your hearts to the Lord.
yet I wish I could not say, there are a great many that have so furious a zeal for these lesser matters of the Law, that where a man differs from them therein, no merit can expiate his Crime, no Parts, no Learning, no Piety, no Industry can reconcile them to that Minister that dissents from them.
yet I wish I could not say, there Are a great many that have so furious a zeal for these lesser matters of the Law, that where a man differs from them therein, no merit can expiate his Crime, no Parts, no Learning, no Piety, no Industry can reconcile them to that Minister that dissents from them.
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God not only regards your worship but the manner of it, Deus delectatur adverb•is. A good man is spiritual in his carnal work, &c. And it is a very bad sign to be carnal in spiritual work, a sign the heart is carnal, and much carnal too:
God not only regards your worship but the manner of it, Deus delectatur adverb•is. A good man is spiritual in his carnal work, etc. And it is a very bad Signen to be carnal in spiritual work, a Signen the heart is carnal, and much carnal too:
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4. When a Man is drawn to spiritual Worship upon carnal grounds, applause of Men, quieting of Conscience, pleasing of Friends, Parents, Master, &c. A spiritual Man doth it in obedience to God's Commands, desire of God's Presence and Grace, and Honour.
4. When a Man is drawn to spiritual Worship upon carnal grounds, applause of Men, quieting of Conscience, pleasing of Friends, Parents, Master, etc. A spiritual Man does it in Obedience to God's Commands, desire of God's Presence and Grace, and Honour.
and hear with greatest attention? Is it some florid and eloquent Expression, some high and unusual Notion, some historical passage, some acute sentence, &c. Or is it a spiritual discourse, a sin-discovering and soul-affecting and heart-breaking passage? What Prayer is it that your hearts do most savour? &c. Ʋse 2. And last Exhortation.
and hear with greatest attention? Is it Some florid and eloquent Expression, Some high and unusual Notion, Some historical passage, Some acute sentence, etc. Or is it a spiritual discourse, a sin-discovering and Soul-affecting and Heartbreaking passage? What Prayer is it that your hearts do most savour? etc. Ʋse 2. And last Exhortation.
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Under the Law there were many Ceremonies, some substance, some things spiritual. Under the Gospel most spiritual, only some very few external observances. In Heaven, all spiritual;
Under the Law there were many Ceremonies, Some substance, Some things spiritual. Under the Gospel most spiritual, only Some very few external observances. In Heaven, all spiritual;
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Nay, ofttimes the worst of men are the greatest Zealots in these things; yea, Christ makes it the Character of an hypocrite, to be violent in these things:
Nay, ofttimes the worst of men Are the greatest Zealots in these things; yea, christ makes it the Character of an hypocrite, to be violent in these things:
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When the Pharisees urged that none should eat meat with unwashen hands, as a Type of that inward purity, &c. as a significant Ceremony which they had devised,
When the Pharisees urged that none should eat meat with unwashen hands, as a Type of that inward purity, etc. as a significant Ceremony which they had devised,
The Devil patiently suffers a carnal Worship, &c. He knows Missa non mordet: The Devil never hindred, but furthered the superstitious Pharisees, and Papists; but spiritual worship he opposeth:
The devil patiently suffers a carnal Worship, etc. He knows Missa non Mordet: The devil never hindered, but furthered the superstitious Pharisees, and Papists; but spiritual worship he Opposeth:
If there be any Ministers that Pray and Preach, and transact the worship of God more spiritually than others, these are the men that the Devil owes a spite,
If there be any Ministers that Pray and Preach, and transact the worship of God more spiritually than Others, these Are the men that the devil owes a spite,
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A carnal ceremonial way under the Gospel, is at best a doubtful and uncertain way, there are many dangers in it, danger of abridging Christian liberty,
A carnal ceremonial Way under the Gospel, is At best a doubtful and uncertain Way, there Are many dangers in it, danger of abridging Christian liberty,
yet nothing displeaseth him more, as you heard just now that dreadful place, In vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrine the Commandments of men ) God will not bear little errours in his worship, Levit. 10. dangerous to the souls of men, to the peace of the Church, as you have heard:
yet nothing displeaseth him more, as you herd just now that dreadful place, In vain do they worship me, teaching for Doctrine the commandments of men) God will not bear little errors in his worship, Levit. 10. dangerous to the Souls of men, to the peace of the Church, as you have herd:
