A sermon against schisme, or, The seperations of these times preacht in the church of Wattlington in Oxford-shire, with some interruption, September 11, 1652 : at a publick dispute held there between Jasper Mayne, D.D. and one ----- ...
IF you please to turne to the 19. Chapter of the Acts of the Apostles, and to read from the 24. to the 33. verse of that Chapter, there is there mention made of a great Assembly, and concurse of people ;
IF you please to turn to the 19. Chapter of the Acts of the Apostles, and to read from the 24. to the 33. verse of that Chapter, there is there mention made of a great Assembly, and concourse of people;
Who upon the Instigation of one Demetrius, a Silver-Smith, were confusedly drawne together into a publick Theater. And when they were met there, the Confusion was so great, that the Theater for the time, was quite changed into a Babel ;
Who upon the Instigation of one Demetrius, a Silver-Smith, were confusedly drawn together into a public Theater. And when they were met there, the Confusion was so great, that the Theater for the time, was quite changed into a Babel;
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For some cryed out one Thing, and some cryed out Another, as you may read at the 32. v. of that Chap. Rudenesse, Clamour, Tumult, Noyse, was all that issued from them.
For Some cried out one Thing, and Some cried out another, as you may read At the 32. v. of that Chap. Rudeness, Clamour, Tumult, Noise, was all that issued from them.
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And hence 'tis, that when Saint Paul would have ingaged himselfe among them, and would have preacht to them to convert and turne them from their Errour, 'Tis said at the 31. verse of that Chapter, That some of the chief of Asia, who were his Friends, sent to him,
And hence it's, that when Saint Paul would have engaged himself among them, and would have preached to them to convert and turn them from their Error, It's said At the 31. verse of that Chapter, That Some of the chief of Asia, who were his Friends, sent to him,
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First, That this hath partly been my case, I have been sent, nay spoken to, by some persons of Quality and Honour, not to ingage my selfe among such a mixt Multitude as this;
First, That this hath partly been my case, I have been sent, nay spoken to, by Some Persons of Quality and Honour, not to engage my self among such a mixed Multitude as this;
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And to speak truth to you, if I had been left to the peaceablenesse of my owne quiet Temper, (which never did delight in stormes, nor to dispute with Fire. ) If the fierce,
And to speak truth to you, if I had been left to the peaceableness of my own quiet Temper, (which never did delight in storms, nor to dispute with Fire.) If the fierce,
and eager Importunity of some who have provokt me, had not drawn me from my Iudgement, I should have followed their Advice, this Meeting had not beene.
and eager Importunity of Some who have provoked me, had not drawn me from my Judgement, I should have followed their advice, this Meeting had not been.
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For my coole and wiser Thoughts have still suggested to me, that to dispute of Truth with those who doe not understand it, is such a piece of Madnesse, as if I should dispute of Colours with a Blind man, of Musicke with a Deafe, or of the Sent of Flowers with One borne without a Smell.
For my cool and Wiser Thoughts have still suggested to me, that to dispute of Truth with those who do not understand it, is such a piece of Madness, as if I should dispute of Colours with a Blind man, of Music with a Deaf, or of the Sent of Flowers with One born without a Smell.
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Next, therefore, having so farre departed from my Reason, as to submit to a Dispute in this great publick Meeting, lest it should prove such a confused Meeting, as I described to you before;
Next, Therefore, having so Far departed from my Reason, as to submit to a Dispute in this great public Meeting, lest it should prove such a confused Meeting, as I described to you before;
And where some shall cry out one Thing, and some shall cry another, I have made it my humble suit to some persons of Honour here present, that by their presence they will free the place from all such wild Confusions. And that,
And where Some shall cry out one Thing, and Some shall cry Another, I have made it my humble suit to Some Persons of Honour Here present, that by their presence they will free the place from all such wild Confusions. And that,
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Before I enter upon a full pursuit, or handling of this Text, it will be needfull that I tell you the occasion of this Meeting, which that I may the better doe, I shall desire you to beleeve, that 'tis not a Meeting of my projection or Contrivance. I appeare not here to raise a Faction, or to draw a party after me,
Before I enter upon a full pursuit, or handling of this Text, it will be needful that I tell you the occasion of this Meeting, which that I may the better do, I shall desire you to believe, that it's not a Meeting of my projection or Contrivance. I appear not Here to raise a Faction, or to draw a party After me,
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let them, if they please, be those raging Waves of the Sea, which Saint Iude speakes of, which are alwayes foming out their owne shame, when they have steept their Tongues in Gall, and spewd forth all their Venome, They shall not make me change my Opinion ;
let them, if they please, be those raging Waves of the Sea, which Saint Iude speaks of, which Are always foaming out their own shame, when they have steeped their Tongues in Gall, and spewed forth all their Venom, They shall not make me change my Opinion;
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as if two Men should fight a Duell, and chuse a Dunghill for their weapon. As therefore, I am not come hither to shew my selfe Malitious, so I am not come hither to gaine Applause, or Reputation by this Meeting. No thirst of Fame, no affection of Victorie hath drawne me from my Study to steppe into this Pulpit. I understand my owne Infirmities too well to be so selfe-conceited.
as if two Men should fight a Duel, and choose a Dunghill for their weapon. As Therefore, I am not come hither to show my self Malicious, so I am not come hither to gain Applause, or Reputation by this Meeting. No thirst of Fame, no affection of Victory hath drawn me from my Study to step into this Pulpit. I understand my own Infirmities too well to be so selfe-conceited.
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Not to hold you therefore any longer in suspense, if you, who know it not already, desire to know the true o•casion of this Meeting, 'tis briefely this;
Not to hold you Therefore any longer in suspense, if you, who know it not already, desire to know the true o•casion of this Meeting, it's briefly this;
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With a bleeding Heart I speake it, I have seene, not onely three Kingdoms, but our Cityes, Towns, and Villages, nay even our private Familyes divided against themselves.
With a bleeding Heart I speak it, I have seen, not only three Kingdoms, but our Cities, Towns, and Villages, nay even our private Families divided against themselves.
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I have seene the Father differing in opinion from the Sonne, and I have seene the Sonne differing in opinion from the Father. I have seene the Mother broken from the Daughter, and I have seen the Daughter divided from the Mother. Nay, our very Marriage-Beds have not scapt the curse of Separation. Like Iacob and Esau issuing from the same wombe, I have seene two Twins of Separation rise from between the same Curtains. I have seen the Wedlock knot quite untyed in Religion ;
I have seen the Father differing in opinion from the Son, and I have seen the Son differing in opinion from the Father. I have seen the Mother broken from the Daughter, and I have seen the Daughter divided from the Mother. Nay, our very Marriage-Beds have not escaped the curse of Separation. Like Iacob and Esau issuing from the same womb, I have seen two Twins of Separation rise from between the same Curtains. I have seen the Wedlock knot quite untied in Religion;
I have seene the Husband in opposition to the Wife ▪ goe to one, and I have seene the Wife in opposition to her Husband, for many years together, goe to another Congregation. In a Word (my Brethren,) the Church of Christ among us, which was once as Seamelesse as his Coate, is now so rent by Schismes, so torne by Separations, that 'tis become like the Coate of Ioseph which you reade of in the 37. Chapter of Genesis, at the 3. verse, scarce one piece is colourd like another ;
I have seen the Husband in opposition to the Wife ▪ go to one, and I have seen the Wife in opposition to her Husband, for many Years together, go to Another Congregation. In a Word (my Brothers,) the Church of christ among us, which was once as Seamless as his Coat, is now so rend by Schisms, so torn by Separations, that it's become like the Coat of Ioseph which you read of in the 37. Chapter of Genesis, At the 3. verse, scarce one piece is coloured like Another;
I pray God the Weaker be not sold by his Brethren, and his Coate be not once more dyed red, once more imbrued in Bloud. This, you will say, is very sad,
I pray God the Weaker be not sold by his Brothers, and his Coat be not once more died read, once more imbrued in Blood. This, you will say, is very sad,
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For the persons who thus Separate, are so far from beleeving themselves to be in an Errour, that they strongly thinke all Others erre who seperate not too;
For the Persons who thus Separate, Are so Far from believing themselves to be in an Error, that they strongly think all Others err who separate not too;
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Nay, zealous Arguments are urged, and Texts of Scripture quoted, to prove that 'tis a damning sinne not to goe on in Separation. The Churches where their Neighbours met ere now contemned, and Scorned:
Nay, zealous Arguments Are urged, and Texts of Scripture quoted, to prove that it's a damning sin not to go on in Separation. The Churches where their Neighbours met ere now contemned, and Scorned:
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because (They say) the people which assemble there are so wicked, so prophane, that they turne Gods House of prayer into a den of Theeves. To keep this infection from spreading in my Parish, and to keepe this piece of Leaven from souring the whole Lumpe ;
Because (They say) the people which assemble there Are so wicked, so profane, that they turn God's House of prayer into a den of Thieves. To keep this infection from spreading in my Parish, and to keep this piece of Leaven from souring the Whole Lump;
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And withall to satisfie one, whom I looke upon as a well-meaning, though a seduced, and erring person, who hath ingaged her selfe by promise, that if I can take the mist from her Eyes, and cleerly let her see her Errour, she will returne back to the Church, from which she hath for some yeares gone astray;
And withal to satisfy one, whom I look upon as a well-meaning, though a seduced, and erring person, who hath engaged her self by promise, that if I can take the missed from her Eyes, and clearly let her see her Error, she will return back to the Church, from which she hath for Some Years gone astray;
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and being invited to doe this in a way of Christian challenge, which hath raised a great expectation in the Countrey, I have taken up the Gauntlet, and here present my selfe before you;
and being invited to do this in a Way of Christian challenge, which hath raised a great expectation in the Country, I have taken up the Gauntlet, and Here present my self before you;
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where He, who wrote this Epistle to the Hebrews sayes, Let us consider one another to provoke one another to love and to Good works, not forsaking the Assembling of our selve• together,
where He, who wrote this Epistle to the Hebrews Says, Let us Consider one Another to provoke one Another to love and to Good works, not forsaking the Assembling of our selve• together,
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IN which words, the only poynt which I shall insist upon, as the fittest, and most seasonable to be preacht to this divided Congregation, shall be the point of Schisme ;
IN which words, the only point which I shall insist upon, as the Fittest, and most seasonable to be preached to this divided Congregation, shall be the point of Schism;
In the pursuit and handling of which words, I will proceed by these two plaine and easie steps. First, I will prove to you, by Arguments, which have a sun-beame for their parent, That the Rent or Separation which is now made in the Church, is a very grievous sinne :
In the pursuit and handling of which words, I will proceed by these two plain and easy steps. First, I will prove to you, by Arguments, which have a sunbeam for their parent, That the Rend or Separation which is now made in the Church, is a very grievous sin:
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Indeed, a sinne so grievous, that I scarce know whether Christians can be guilty of a greater. Next, I will Examine and answer their Arguments, and Texts of Scripture ;
Indeed, a sin so grievous, that I scarce know whither Christians can be guilty of a greater. Next, I will Examine and answer their Arguments, and Texts of Scripture;
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That is, a Creature borne and made, and created for Society. Towards the preservation and maintenance wherof God at the Beginning, ordered his Creation of us so, that whereas other Creatures take their Originall and Birth from a Diversitie of parents. He made us Men to spring from one, undivided, single payre. One Adam, and one Eve were the two joyn'd parents of Mankinde. And the Reason of this was, That there might not onely be among us one common Kinred and Alliance, but that we might hold a firme,
That is, a Creature born and made, and created for Society. Towards the preservation and maintenance whereof God At the Beginning, ordered his Creation of us so, that whereas other Creatures take their Original and Birth from a Diversity of Parents. He made us Men to spring from one, undivided, single pair. One Adam, and one Eve were the two joined Parents of Mankind. And the Reason of this was, That there might not only be among us one Common Kindred and Alliance, but that we might hold a firm,
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And hence 'tis we see, that without any other Teacher but their owne Naturall Instinct, Men in all Ages have avoided seperation, by gathering themselves into formed Bodyes of Cittyes, Towns and Commonwealths. Neighbourhood, Society, mutuall help,
And hence it's we see, that without any other Teacher but their own Natural Instinct, Men in all Ages have avoided separation, by gathering themselves into formed Bodies of Cities, Towns and Commonwealths. Neighbourhood, Society, mutual help,
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and Conversation, being one of the great Ends for which God made us Men. And upon this Ground it hath been disputed, whether a Hermit, or Monastic man, breake not the Law of Nature, because he separates himselfe from the company of Men ? And 'tis clearly stated by some great Casuists, That if he seperate from others for no End but separation, if he retire himselfe into a Cave or Wildernesse, or Desart, (as some of the Ancient Hermits did) not for Devotion, but out of a hatred,
and Conversation, being one of the great Ends for which God made us Men. And upon this Ground it hath been disputed, whither a Hermit, or Monastic man, break not the Law of Nature, Because he separates himself from the company of Men? And it's clearly stated by Some great Casuists, That if he separate from Others for no End but separation, if he retire himself into a Cave or Wilderness, or Desert, (as Some of the Ancient Hermit's did) not for Devotion, but out of a hatred,
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We are all of Kinne by Nature, but we are all Brethren as Christians: Men allyed to one another by one common Hope, one common Faith, one common Saviour, one common God, and Lord, and Father of us all. And upon this Ground, when one Christian shall divide or forsake the society of Another, unlesse it be upon a just principle of Conscience, and to avoid a sinne, the Scripture calls it not barely Separation, but Separation which is Schisme. That is, such a Separation as is a Gospel-sinne •.
We Are all of Kin by Nature, but we Are all Brothers as Christians: Men allied to one Another by one Common Hope, one Common Faith, one Common Saviour, one Common God, and Lord, and Father of us all. And upon this Ground, when one Christian shall divide or forsake the society of another, unless it be upon a just principle of Conscience, and to avoid a sin, the Scripture calls it not barely Separation, but Separation which is Schism. That is, such a Separation as is a Gospel sin •.
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Which, that you may the more clearly understand, give me leave to aske you in truth what is Schisme? Why the best Definition of it that was ever yet given is this, That Schisme is nothing else,
Which, that you may the more clearly understand, give me leave to ask you in truth what is Schism? Why the best Definition of it that was ever yet given is this, That Schism is nothing Else,
In which Definition of Schisme, three things doe offer themselves to your serious observation, to make it formall Schisme, or a signe of Separation. First it must be a separation of Christians from some part of the Visible Church, of which they were once Members ;
In which Definition of Schism, three things do offer themselves to your serious observation, to make it formal Schism, or a Signen of Separation. First it must be a separation of Christians from Some part of the Visible Church, of which they were once Members;
That is, (according to the Definition, a visible Church as it concerns this present purpose) it must be a Deniall of Communion with that Congregation of Christians, with whom they were once united under a rightly-constituted Pastor. Next, they who thus separate, must betake themselves to some other Teacher, whom, in opposition to the former, they chuse to be their Guide, and so make themselves his Followers.
That is, (according to the Definition, a visible Church as it concerns this present purpose) it must be a Denial of Communion with that Congregation of Christians, with whom they were once united under a rightly-constituted Pastor. Next, they who thus separate, must betake themselves to Some other Teacher, whom, in opposition to the former, they choose to be their Guide, and so make themselves his Followers.
Lastly, This choyce of a New Guide, and Separation from the Old, this Erection of a New Church, and Division from the former must be upon slight unnecessary Grounds ;
Lastly, This choice of a New Guide, and Separation from the Old, this Erection of a New Church, and Division from the former must be upon slight unnecessary Grounds;
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For if the Cause, or Ground of their Separation be needlesse, vaine, unnecessary, if it spring more out of Humour, Pride, desi•e of change, or Hatred of their Brethren, then out of any Christian love to keepe themselves from sinnes ;
For if the Cause, or Ground of their Separation be needless, vain, unnecessary, if it spring more out of Humour, Pride, desi•e of change, or Hatred of their Brothers, then out of any Christian love to keep themselves from Sins;
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Or if you will heare me expresse my self in the language of a very learned Man (who hath contrived a clue to lead us through this Labyrinth ) This breach of Communion, This separation from a Church rightly constituted ;
Or if you will hear me express my self in the language of a very learned Man (who hath contrived a Clue to led us through this Labyrinth) This breach of Communion, This separation from a Church rightly constituted;
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Lastly, This setting up of a New Congregation, or place of private Meetings, is the same sinne in Religion ▪ which Sedition, or Rebellion is in the Commonwealth or State. For upon a right examination of the matter 'twill be found, That Schisme is a Religious, or Ecclesiasticall Sedition, as Sedition in the State is a civill, Lay-schisme.
Lastly, This setting up of a New Congregation, or place of private Meetings, is the same sin in Religion ▪ which Sedition, or Rebellion is in the Commonwealth or State. For upon a right examination of the matter it'll be found, That Schism is a Religious, or Ecclesiastical Sedition, as Sedition in the State is a civil, Laity-split.
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and make them preach to you from this Pulpit against the sinne of Separation. I might tell you, that in the purest Times of the Church, a Schismatick, and Hereticke were lookt upon as Twinnes ;
and make them preach to you from this Pulpit against the sin of Separation. I might tell you, that in the Purest Times of the Church, a Schismatic, and Heretic were looked upon as Twins;
The one as an Enemy to the Faith, the other to Communion. But because in our darke Times, learning is so grown out of date, that to quote an Ancient Father, is thought a piece of Superstition ;
The one as an Enemy to the Faith, the other to Communion. But Because in our dark Times, learning is so grown out of date, that to quote an Ancient Father, is Thought a piece of Superstition;
Now I beseech you, brethren, sayes he there, Marke them which cause Divisions, and offences, contrary to the Doctrine which ye have learned, and avoid them:
Now I beseech you, brothers, Says he there, Mark them which cause Divisions, and offences, contrary to the Doctrine which you have learned, and avoid them:
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In which words, Foure things are so exactly drawn to life, as makes them a perfect Prophecye, or rather picture of our Times ▪ The first is, that there were some in S. Pauls dayes, who caused Divisions in the Church; Men, who in a way of Schisme, and Separation, made themselves the Heads and Leaders of divided Congregations.
In which words, Foure things Are so exactly drawn to life, as makes them a perfect Prophecy, or rather picture of our Times ▪ The First is, that there were Some in S. Paul's days, who caused Divisions in the Church; Men, who in a Way of Schism, and Separation, made themselves the Heads and Leaders of divided Congregations.
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And that they might gaine by their Divisions. Nay, 'twas such a poore, base, unworthy selfe-Interest, that 'tis there said, they did it in compliance to their Belly.
And that they might gain by their Divisions. Nay, 'twas such a poor, base, unworthy selfe-Interest, that it's there said, they did it in compliance to their Belly.
The third thing which will deserve your observation, is, the cunning Art they used to draw the weake to be their Followers. 'Tis there sayd, that by good Words and faire Speeches, they deceived the Hearts of the simple, especially the simple of the weaker sex. And who these were, S. Paul, in other words,
The third thing which will deserve your observation, is, the cunning Art they used to draw the weak to be their Followers. It's there said, that by good Words and fair Speeches, they deceived the Hearts of the simple, especially the simple of the Weaker sex. And who these were, S. Paul, in other words,
but to the same purpose tells you, in the 3. Chapter of his second Epistle to Timothy at the 5, 6, 7. verses of that Chapter. Where speaking of such Coseners, he sayes, they had a Forme of Godlinesse, an outward seeming Holynesse to deceive and cosen by;
but to the same purpose tells you, in the 3. Chapter of his second Epistle to Timothy At the 5, 6, 7. Verses of that Chapter. Where speaking of such Cozeners, he Says, they had a Form of Godliness, an outward seeming Holiness to deceive and Cousin by;
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and drawne away with divers Lusts. Women so unable to distinguish Right from Wrong, that they were alwayes learning, and never able to come to the Knowledge of the Truth.
and drawn away with diverse Lusts. Women so unable to distinguish Right from Wrong, that they were always learning, and never able to come to the Knowledge of the Truth.
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And certainly, my Brethren, 'tis no new thing under the sunne, to see the weaker sexe misled by holy Formes, and Shews. 'Tis no new thing, I say, under the Sunne,
And Certainly, my Brothers, it's no new thing under the sun, to see the Weaker sex misled by holy Forms, and Shows. It's no new thing, I say, under the Sun,
and 'twas so in S. Pauls. And whether their demure lookes, their precise carriage, their long prayers, their good words and fayre speeches, be not the Hooke, and snare, by which weake people are caught now;
and 'twas so in S. Paul's. And whither their demure looks, their precise carriage, their long Prayers, their good words and fair Speeches, be not the Hook, and snare, by which weak people Are caught now;
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Or whether the vaine Ambition of being thought more holy or more gifted than the rest, be not the true end of those, who doe now cause Separations, I will not rashly censure,
Or whither the vain Ambition of being Thought more holy or more gifted than the rest, be not the true end of those, who do now cause Separations, I will not rashly censure,
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The fourth, and last thing, which most deserves your observation, is, that Separation in that place is such a Scripture-sinne, that S. Paul commands us to separate from those, who doe thus cause Separations. Heare the place, I pray, once more repeated to you, I beseech you, Brethren, sayes he, Marke them who cause Divisions among you, and avoid them.
The fourth, and last thing, which most deserves your observation, is, that Separation in that place is such a Scriptural sin, that S. Paul commands us to separate from those, who do thus cause Separations. Hear the place, I pray, once more repeated to you, I beseech you, Brothers, Says he, Mark them who cause Divisions among you, and avoid them.
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And what sinne thinke you is this sinne of Separation? Why, I know some of you will thinke it strange if I should say, 'tis a sinne of the Flesh. And yet S. Paul sayes, that 'tis a sinne of the Flesh, in the 3. Chapter of his first Epistle to the Corinthians. Marke I beseech you what he sayes in that place.
And what sin think you is this sin of Separation? Why, I know Some of you will think it strange if I should say, it's a sin of the Flesh. And yet S. Paul Says, that it's a sin of the Flesh, in the 3. Chapter of his First Epistle to the Corinthians. Mark I beseech you what he Says in that place.
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Are ye not carnall? sayes he at the 4. v. of that Chapter. If to divide and separate from the Followers of S. Paul, and to make themselves the Followers, and Disciples of Apollos ;
are you not carnal? Says he At the 4. v. of that Chapter. If to divide and separate from the Followers of S. Paul, and to make themselves the Followers, and Disciples of Apollos;
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(as S. Paul sayes it was) what shall we say of some people of our Times? who instead of severall Apostles to divide themselves by, doe chuse to themselves Guides so meane, so unlearned, so liable to Errour, that they perfectly make between them the picture of Mistakes :
(as S. Paul Says it was) what shall we say of Some people of our Times? who instead of several Apostles to divide themselves by, do choose to themselves Guides so mean, so unlearned, so liable to Error, that they perfectly make between them the picture of Mistakes:
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But we are faln on Times so made of Separation, that people doe divide themselves by Teachers, whose second Trade is Teaching. Teachers so obscure, so bred to manuall Occupations; Teachers so sprung up from the basest of the people. Lastly, Teachers, so accustomed to the Trewell, Forge, and Anvill, that I almost blush to name them in the Pulpit. 'Tis not now sa•d, we are of Paul, And we are of Apollos ;
But we Are fallen on Times so made of Separation, that people do divide themselves by Teachers, whose second Trade is Teaching. Teachers so Obscure, so bred to manual Occupations; Teachers so sprung up from the Basest of the people. Lastly, Teachers, so accustomed to the Trewell, Forge, and Anvil, that I almost blush to name them in the Pulpit. It's not now sa•d, we Are of Paul, And we Are of Apollos;
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and we are of Dicke the Gelder. And whether to Divide and Separate under such vulgar Names as These, be no a sinne of the Flesh, I leave to every one of you, who have read S. Paul, to judge.
and we Are of Dick the Gelder. And whither to Divide and Separate under such Vulgar Names as These, be not a sin of the Flesh, I leave to every one of you, who have read S. Paul, to judge.
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And here, now, if Time were not a Winged Thing, or if it would but stay my leisure, I might lay before you many other places of the Scripture, which clearly doe demonstrate that Separation is a sinne.
And Here, now, if Time were not a Winged Thing, or if it would but stay my leisure, I might lay before you many other places of the Scripture, which clearly doe demonstrate that Separation is a sin.
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For though, like the Ghost of Samuel, which you read of in the Scripture, it usually appeare cloathed in the Mantle of a Prophet, though it were Holinesse in the Tongue, And precisenesse in the Face ;
For though, like the Ghost of Samuel, which you read of in the Scripture, it usually appear clothed in the Mantle of a Prophet, though it were Holiness in the Tongue, And preciseness in the Face;
How it lookes with a Virgin check without, and is nought but Rottennesse within, I shall once more desire y•u to heare what S. Paul sayes of it, In the 5. Chapter of the Galatians at the 19. and 20. verses of that chapter, Where he once more reckons it among the sinnes of the Flesh. As for Example, The Works of the Flesh are manifest, sayes he, which are these ▪ Adulterie, Fornication, Vncleannesse, Lasciviousnesse, Idolatrie, Witchcraft, Hatred, Variance, Emulation, Wrath, Strife, Seditions, Haeresies, sayes our English ▪ Translation.
How it looks with a Virgae check without, and is nought but Rottenness within, I shall once more desire y•u to hear what S. Paul Says of it, In the 5. Chapter of the Galatians At the 19. and 20. Verses of that chapter, Where he once more reckons it among the Sins of the Flesh. As for Exampl, The Works of the Flesh Are manifest, Says he, which Are these ▪ Adultery, Fornication, Uncleanness, Lasciviousness, Idolatry, Witchcraft, Hatred, Variance, Emulation, Wrath, Strife, Seditions, Heresies, Says our English ▪ translation.
Where you see Seditions, Sects, and Schismes, as well as Adulterie, and Murther, are there listed by S. Paul among those works of the Flesh, which doe shut men out of Heaven, and exclude them from salvation.
Where you see Seditions, Sects, and Schisms, as well as Adultery, and Murder, Are there listed by S. Paul among those works of the Flesh, which do shut men out of Heaven, and exclude them from salvation.
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'Tis a Rule in Divinity, (and tis a Rule infallible ) That those sinnes are the Greatest, which are most contrary, and doe most oppose the greatest Christian vertues. Now the Three Great Christian vertues which doe make and constitute a Christian, are set downe by S. Paul, in the 13. chapter of his first Epistle to the Corinthians, at the last verse, where he sayes,
It's a Rule in Divinity, (and this a Rule infallible) That those Sins Are the Greatest, which Are most contrary, and do most oppose the greatest Christian Virtues. Now the Three Great Christian Virtues which do make and constitute a Christian, Are Set down by S. Paul, in the 13. chapter of his First Epistle to the Corinthians, At the last verse, where he Says,
and obstinate Defence, and persisting in a knowne Errour, is a farre greater sinne. For 'tis a sinne against Faith, a sinne which strives to draw a Cloud about the Beames of Truth. But if it be true what S. Paul sayes, (as most certainly it is) If it be true that Charity is greater then either Faith, or Hope, Then 'twill follow by Good Logick and all the Consequence of Reason ;
and obstinate Defence, and persisting in a known Error, is a Far greater sin. For it's a sin against Faith, a sin which strives to draw a Cloud about the Beams of Truth. But if it be true what S. Paul Says, (as most Certainly it is) If it be true that Charity is greater then either Faith, or Hope, Then it'll follow by Good Logic and all the Consequence of Reason;
Lastly, That sinne which rends, and teares the Cords of Charity asunder, is a farre greater sinne then unbeliefe or Haeresie. And the sin which doth all this is the sin of Separation.
Lastly, That sin which rends, and tears the Cords of Charity asunder, is a Far greater sin then unbelief or Heresy. And the since which does all this is the since of Separation.
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By which Christ would have his Followers distinguisht from the rest of Mankinds. For by this shall all men know, sayes he, that you are my Disciples, if yee love one another. As you may read in the 13. chapter of Iohn at the 35. verse.
By which christ would have his Followers distinguished from the rest of Mankinds. For by this shall all men know, Says he, that you Are my Disciples, if ye love one Another. As you may read in the 13. chapter of John At the 35. verse.
And agreeable to this is that which is delivered here in this Text, where the Authour of this Epistle to the Hebrewes sayes, Let us consider one another to provoke one another to Love.
And agreeable to this is that which is Delivered Here in this Text, where the Author of this Epistle to the Hebrews Says, Let us Consider one Another to provoke one Another to Love.
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So tis one of the greatest sinnes too, in its dangerous Effects. Besides the Hatred, Envy, Strife, which it begets among Men of divided Interests, and Mindes, Tis many times the Coale which sets whole States and Common-wealths on fire.
So this one of the greatest Sins too, in its dangerous Effects. Beside the Hatred, Envy, Strife, which it begets among Men of divided Interests, and Minds, This many times the Coal which sets Whole States and Commonwealths on fire.
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and have changed the Sword of the Spirit into the Sword of Warre. The proceedings of the Donatists in Affricke, and of the Iohn - of Leyden - Men at Munster are two sad Examples of the truth of what I say.
and have changed the Sword of the Spirit into the Sword of War. The proceedings of the Donatists in Africa, and of the John - of Leyden - Men At Munster Are two sad Examples of the truth of what I say.
But if this be to conquer, one of our Gifted Men who is at all no Scholler, can as well triumph over men of Ayre, and shaddowes, as your selfe. To let you see,
But if this be to conquer, one of our Gifted Men who is At all no Scholar, can as well triumph over men of Air, and shadows, as your self. To let you see,
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therefore, that I am one of those, who desire not to fight Duels with naked unarmed Men, nor to meet any in the Field, before we have agreed upon the just length of our Weapons: If your patience will hold out so long, who come disinterested hither, This second part of this Sermon shall be spent in the pursuit of that, which Master Deane of Christ-church just now very seasonably noted as a Defect in our present way of Arguing, and Dispute, which was, that the Grounds were not examined upon which the present Separations of these Times, do build themselves.
Therefore, that I am one of those, who desire not to fight Duels with naked unarmed Men, nor to meet any in the Field, before we have agreed upon the just length of our Weapons: If your patience will hold out so long, who come disinterested hither, This second part of this Sermon shall be spent in the pursuit of that, which Master Deane of Christchurch just now very seasonably noted as a Defect in our present Way of Arguing, and Dispute, which was, that the Grounds were not examined upon which the present Separations of these Times, do built themselves.
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These Grounds, therefore, I shall now in the next place call to some reckoning and Account, And in the doing of this, I will hang up a payre of Scales before you, you shall see their Arguments placed in One Scale, and my Answers in the Other: And because no Moderatour sits in the Chayre to judge (which was a thing foreseen by me, but could not well be compast) I shall make you the Iudges who heare me this day.
These Grounds, Therefore, I shall now in the next place call to Some reckoning and Account, And in the doing of this, I will hang up a pair of Scales before you, you shall see their Arguments placed in One Scale, and my Answers in the Other: And Because no Moderator sits in the Chair to judge (which was a thing foreseen by me, but could not well be compassed) I shall make you the Judges who hear me this day.
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And because the Rudenesse, and Ill-language of those who have disturbed me in this Pulpit, hath made me stand before you here like a man arraigned for Errour, I will freely cast my selfe upon God, and you the Countrey. Thus, then, I shall proceede.
And Because the Rudeness, and Ill-language of those who have disturbed me in this Pulpit, hath made me stand before you Here like a man arraigned for Error, I will freely cast my self upon God, and you the Country. Thus, then, I shall proceed.
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We grant, indeed, That if we broke Communion with you out of Faction, or Selfe-Interest, or Pride, or desire of Gaine, or meere Love of Separation, you might well call us Schismaticks ;
We grant, indeed, That if we broke Communion with you out of Faction, or Selfe-Interest, or Pride, or desire of Gain, or mere Love of Separation, you might well call us Schismatics;
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and your people practise Lyes. In a word, we cannot with the safety of our Conscience frequent your Congregations. Since to appeare there would be an enterprize as dangerous,
and your people practise Lies. In a word, we cannot with the safety of our Conscience frequent your Congregations. Since to appear there would be an enterprise as dangerous,
And How, thinke you, do they prove it? why, as they thinke by two cleare places of the Scripture, which no man can oppose ▪ and not make Warre with Heaven. Two places of Scripture, I say, have beene produced,
And How, think you, do they prove it? why, as they think by two clear places of the Scripture, which no man can oppose ▪ and not make War with Heaven. Two places of Scripture, I say, have been produced,
The fi•st you shall finde set downe in the 5. last verses of the 6. Chapter, of the second Epistle of S. Paul to the Corinthians, where the words run thus.
The fi•st you shall find Set down in the 5. last Verses of the 6. Chapter, of the second Epistle of S. Paul to the Corinthians, where the words run thus.
For what Fellowship hath Righteousnesse with unrighteousnesse? And what Communion hath Light with Darknesse? And what Concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath he that believeth with an Infidell? And what agreement hath the Temple of God with Idolls? For ye are the Temple of the living God;
For what Fellowship hath Righteousness with unrighteousness? And what Communion hath Light with Darkness? And what Concord hath christ with Belial? Or what part hath he that Believeth with an Infidel? And what agreement hath the Temple of God with Idols? For you Are the Temple of the living God;
This is their first great place, which they urge for separation. Will you now heare their second? That you shall finde set downe in the 4. first verses of the 18. Chapter of the Revelations. Where the words run thus, After these things, sayes S. Iohn there, I saw another Angel come downe from Heaven, having great power;
This is their First great place, which they urge for separation. Will you now hear their second? That you shall find Set down in the 4. First Verses of the 18. Chapter of the Revelations. Where the words run thus, After these things, Says S. John there, I saw Another Angel come down from Heaven, having great power;
These two places of Scripture (if you will heare me expresse my selfe in the thred-bare Language of the Times ) They say, doe hold Forth themselves soe clearely, that I may sooner quench the sunne than finde an Answer to them.
These two places of Scripture (if you will hear me express my self in the threadbare Language of the Times) They say, do hold Forth themselves so clearly, that I may sooner quench the sun than find an Answer to them.
Nay, to deale freely with you, these two places, and these only are a piece of the Challenge which hath occasioned this Dispute. For I am promised by Her, whom I here come to undeceive, that if I can answer these two places, she wil be my Convert ;
Nay, to deal freely with you, these two places, and these only Are a piece of the Challenge which hath occasioned this Dispute. For I am promised by Her, whom I Here come to undeceive, that if I can answer these two places, she will be my Convert;
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And will separate from these who doe now make separations. I take her at her word, and doe thus contrive, and shape my Answers ; Marke them I beseech you.
And will separate from these who do now make separations. I take her At her word, and do thus contrive, and shape my Answers; Mark them I beseech you.
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you are to understand, that when S. Paul wrote that Epistle, The City of Corinth was not wholly converted to the Faith, but was divided in Religions, some were yet Heathens, and sacrificed to 〈 ◊ 〉:
you Are to understand, that when S. Paul wrote that Epistle, The city of Corinth was not wholly converted to the Faith, but was divided in Religions, Some were yet heathens, and sacrificed to 〈 ◊ 〉:
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N•verthelesse, th•y were not so divided in Religions, but that dwelling together in the same City, certaine Neighbourly Civillities, and Acts of kindnesse past between them.
N•verthelesse, th•y were not so divided in Religions, but that Dwelling together in the same city, certain Neighbourly Civilities, and Acts of kindness passed between them.
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Nay, this meeting of Christians with Heathens at an Idol sacrifice, and their eating with them of that sacrifice in the very Temple of the Idol, was a thing so dangerous, so apt to call weake Christians back againe to their former Idolatry, That Saint Paul thought it high time to say, Be not thus unequally jokt with unbeleevers. In which expression he doth cast an eye upon that Law of God, which you may read set downe in the 22 Chapter of Deuteronomye, at the 9, 10, 11. verses of that Chapter. Where God sayes, Thou shalt not sow thy Vineyard with diverse seeds;
Nay, this meeting of Christians with heathens At an Idol sacrifice, and their eating with them of that sacrifice in the very Temple of the Idol, was a thing so dangerous, so apt to call weak Christians back again to their former Idolatry, That Saint Paul Thought it high time to say, Be not thus unequally jokt with unbelievers. In which expression he does cast an eye upon that Law of God, which you may read Set down in the 22 Chapter of Deuteronomy, At the 9, 10, 11. Verses of that Chapter. Where God Says, Thou shalt not sow thy Vineyard with diverse seeds;
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For a Christian mingling with a Heathen, in a Heathen Congregation: Nay, a Christian mingling with a Heathen in the Temple of an Idol, was a more disproportion'd sight,
For a Christian mingling with a Heathen, in a Heathen Congregation: Nay, a Christian mingling with a Heathen in the Temple of an Idol, was a more disproportioned sighed,
Or then to see Wool mixt with Linnen in the same Garment. In a Word, the Idolatry of the Heathens was so inconsistent with the Religion of the Christians, that S. Paul proceeds,
Or then to see Wool mixed with Linen in the same Garment. In a Word, the Idolatry of the heathens was so inconsistent with the Religion of the Christians, that S. Paul proceeds,
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Or tye a Marriage knot between Righteousnesse and sinne, as make it hold in fitnesse; That Christians who are the Temples of God, and of his holy Spirit, should meer,
Or tie a Marriage knot between Righteousness and sin, as make it hold in fitness; That Christians who Are the Temples of God, and of his holy Spirit, should mere,
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These Corinthians unconverted, These Worshippers of Idols, who strived to draw the Christians back to their former Superstitions, were they from whom S. Paul bids his New Converts separate themselves.
These Corinthians unconverted, These Worshippers of Idols, who strived to draw the Christians back to their former Superstitions, were they from whom S. Paul bids his New Converts separate themselves.
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Which words are but a string struck by the Prophet Esay first, and spoken by him, of the separation of the Iewes, from the then Idolatryes of the Heathens. And that this is the true Interpretation of this place, will appeare to any who shall compare, what S. Paul here sayes, with that which he sayes, in the 10. Chapter of his first Epistle to the Co•inthians, from the 19. to the 30. verse of that Chapter.
Which words Are but a string struck by the Prophet Isaiah First, and spoken by him, of the separation of the Iewes, from the then Idolatries of the heathens. And that this is the true Interpretation of this place, will appear to any who shall compare, what S. Paul Here Says, with that which he Says, in the 10. Chapter of his First Epistle to the Co•inthians, from the 19. to the 30. verse of that Chapter.
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This then, being so, Let me aske the zealous persons, who thus delight in Separation, are They from whom they separate such Infidells, such Heathens, such Worshippers of Idols, as S. Paul doth here describe? Doe they see any Gods of Gold, erected in our Temples? Or doe they see any Images of Silver adored,
This then, being so, Let me ask the zealous Persons, who thus delight in Separation, Are They from whom they separate such Infidels, such heathens, such Worshippers of Idols, as S. Paul does Here describe? Do they see any God's of Gold, erected in our Temples? Or do they see any Images of Silver adored,
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and sacrificed to by our Congregations ? Doe any of us make prayer ▪ to a stocke? Or doe any of us burne Incense to a Stone? Nay, l•t them (if they please) examine us by their private-meeting. Catechisme. Doe we not confesse the same God that they doe? Doe we not beleeve in the same Iesus Christ? Do we preach another Gospel? Or hope to be saved by any other Name but His? Are not our Congregations built on the Scripture-Rock ? Is not Christ our Corner Stone, and his Apostles our Foundation? Doe we not agree with them in all things,
and sacrificed to by our Congregations? Do any of us make prayer ▪ to a stock? Or do any of us burn Incense to a Stone? Nay, l•t them (if they please) examine us by their private-meeting. Catechism. Do we not confess the same God that they do? Do we not believe in the same Iesus christ? Do we preach Another Gospel? Or hope to be saved by any other Name but His? are not our Congregations built on the Scripture-Rock? Is not christ our Corner Stone, and his Apostles our Foundation? Do we not agree with them in all things,
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but where they differ from the Scripture ? As for Example, we doe maintaine, and say, that separation is a sinne. They doe maintaine and say, That 'tis a Christian Duty ;
but where they differ from the Scripture? As for Exampl, we do maintain, and say, that separation is a sin. They do maintain and say, That it's a Christian Duty;
We say, that if a Child of God doe breake Gods Laws, a Child of God sinnes. Some of them say that God beholds no sinne in his Children. Lastly, we say of the Scripture, as S. Peter said of S. Pauls Epistles; That there be some things in seem, very hard to be understood, which they who are unlearned w••st to their owne Destruction.
We say, that if a Child of God do break God's Laws, a Child of God Sins. some of them say that God beholds no sin in his Children. Lastly, we say of the Scripture, as S. Peter said of S. Paul's Epistles; That there be Some things in seem, very hard to be understood, which they who Are unlearned w••st to their own Destruction.
Nay to apply such a reproachfull place of Scripture to us, as makes us no better then Infidels, and Heathens, and Worshippers of Idols, is to revile us with the Word of God, and to Libell us with Scripture.
Nay to apply such a reproachful place of Scripture to us, as makes us no better then Infidels, and heathens, and Worshippers of Idols, is to revile us with the Word of God, and to Libel us with Scripture.
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which showe fayre and beautifull without, and hold nought but stinke, and Rottennesse within? Againe, would They take it well if we should apply to them, that place which speakes of Men, who have a Forme of Godlinesse, but deny the power thereof ? Men, who like the old Pharisees, with a long prayer in their Mouth, creep into Houses, and there leade Captive silly Women? Lastly, would They take it well if we should apply that place to Them, which sayes;
which show fair and beautiful without, and hold nought but stink, and Rottenness within? Again, would They take it well if we should apply to them, that place which speaks of Men, who have a Form of Godliness, but deny the power thereof? Men, who like the old Pharisees, with a long prayer in their Mouth, creep into Houses, and there lead Captive silly Women? Lastly, would They take it well if we should apply that place to Them, which Says;
Reprobate concerning the Faith? (as 'tis in the Greek, and the Margin of your Bibles ) NONLATINALPHABET, Men purblinde, voide of Iudgement concerning the true knowledge of the Faith? If they would not take it well,
Reprobate Concerning the Faith? (as it's in the Greek, and the Margin of your Bibles), Men purblind, void of Judgement Concerning the true knowledge of the Faith? If they would not take it well,
But here perhaps, will some of you who heare me this day, say; We doe not separate from you, because you are out-right unbeleevers, Pagans, Infidels, or Heathens ;
But Here perhaps, will Some of you who hear me this day, say; We do not separate from you, Because you Are outright unbelievers, Pagans, Infidels, or heathens;
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But because you weare the Names of Christians, and yet live the Lives of Heathens. Though you doe not worship Idols, yet there is Covetousnesse among you, which S. Paul calls Idolatry. And though you d•• •••fesse Christ, yet you walke disorderly ;
But Because you wear the Names of Christians, and yet live the Lives of heathens. Though you do not worship Idols, yet there is Covetousness among you, which S. Paul calls Idolatry. And though you d•• •••fesse christ, yet you walk disorderly;
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Though we see no Gods of Gold nor Silver in your Temples, yet if we came there, we might see a Congregation of such people as S. Paul in other places bids us Separate from.
Though we see no God's of Gold nor Silver in your Temples, yet if we Come there, we might see a Congregation of such people as S. Paul in other places bids us Separate from.
and not according to the Traditions which he taught? Or if this place be not cleare enough, turne to the 5. Chapter of the first Epistle of S. Paul to the Corinthians, and to the 11. verse, Doth he not there say, that if Any man that is called a Brother, be a Fornicatour,
and not according to the Traditions which he taught? Or if this place be not clear enough, turn to the 5. Chapter of the First Epistle of S. Paul to the Corinthians, and to the 11. verse, Does he not there say, that if Any man that is called a Brother, be a Fornicator,
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But are our whole Congregations composed of such men? Are all Drunkards ? Are all Fornicatours? Are all Raylers? Are all Extortioners ? Are all, both Priests and People so like one another, that when they meete they make not a Church.
But Are our Whole Congregations composed of such men? are all Drunkards? are all Fornicators? are all Railers? are all Extortioners? are all, both Priests and People so like one Another, that when they meet they make not a Church.
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Assembly, but a Congregation of such sinners ? Or are they onely some? And they, perhaps, the lesser part who are guilty of those sinnes? Nay suppose they should be farre the greater part, who are guilty of these sinnes ;
Assembly, but a Congregation of such Sinners? Or Are they only Some? And they, perhaps, the lesser part who Are guilty of those Sins? Nay suppose they should be Far the greater part, who Are guilty of these Sins;
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That to the Worlds end, among the good seed there shall still grow Weeds, and Tares. Againe, in the 13. chapter of S. Mathew at the 47. and 48. verses of that Chapter, he compares the Kingdome of God here in this World, to a Net cast into the Sea, which inclosed Fishes of all sorts, Bad as well as Good. And what the meaning of this draught of mingled Fishes is, I shall desire you to read at the 49. and 50. verses of that chapter, where he sayes;
That to the World's end, among the good seed there shall still grow Weeds, and Tares. Again, in the 13. chapter of S. Matthew At the 47. and 48. Verses of that Chapter, he compares the Kingdom of God Here in this World, to a Net cast into the Sea, which enclosed Fish of all sorts, Bad as well as Good. And what the meaning of this draught of mingled Fish is, I shall desire you to read At the 49. and 50. Verses of that chapter, where he Says;
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NONLATINALPHABET, sayes the Originall Greek, They shall separate the wicked fro the midst of the Iust, which clearely doth prove to us, That till this fi•all Separation, in the Church of God here on earth, there will alwayes be a mixture :
, Says the Original Greek, They shall separate the wicked from the midst of the Just, which clearly does prove to us, That till this fi•all Separation, in the Church of God Here on earth, there will always be a mixture:
To divide or separate, therefore, from the whole Congregation, because some wicked men are in it, is a course so unreasonable, as if they should refuse a Field of Corne because there grew some weeds, or should renounce a Field of Wheat because it beares some Tares.
To divide or separate, Therefore, from the Whole Congregation, Because Some wicked men Are in it, is a course so unreasonable, as if they should refuse a Field of Corn Because there grew Some weeds, or should renounce a Field of Wheat Because it bears Some Tares.
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Besides, I would faine know, how farre they will extend the meaning of that Text, where S. Paul sayes, That they are not to eat with a Brother, who is a Drunkard, or Adulterer, or Rayler, or Extortioner. Will they extend it to all sorts of persons who are such? If they will,
Beside, I would feign know, how Far they will extend the meaning of that Text, where S. Paul Says, That they Are not to eat with a Brother, who is a Drunkard, or Adulterer, or Railer, or Extortioner. Will they extend it to all sorts of Persons who Are such? If they will,
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If the Sonne have a Drunkard to his Father, he must remove Tables, and not dyet with his Father. And so there will be one Division more then those the Scripture speakes of:
If the Son have a Drunkard to his Father, he must remove Tables, and not diet with his Father. And so there will be one Division more then those the Scripture speaks of:
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For that onely tells us that the time shall come when the Sonne shall be divided from the Father, and the Mother from the Daughter. But if this Interpretation be true, the Wife must divide and break her selfe from her distemper'd Husband too.
For that only tells us that the time shall come when the Son shall be divided from the Father, and the Mother from the Daughter. But if this Interpretation be true, the Wife must divide and break her self from her distempered Husband too.
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If the sinnes of a part be a just sufficient Ground to separate from the whole, Why doe not they who separate, divide and fall assu•d•r ? For here let me ask them,
If the Sins of a part be a just sufficient Ground to separate from the Whole, Why do not they who separate, divide and fallen assu•d•r? For Here let me ask them,
Are they all so Innocent, so pure, so free, so voyd of sinne, that there is not one disorderly Brother among them? Is their place of private Meetings so much the New Ierusalem, That no Drunkard, no Adulterer, nor Rayler enters there? I wish there did not, my Brethren.
are they all so Innocent, so pure, so free, so void of sin, that there is not one disorderly Brother among them? Is their place of private Meetings so much the New Ierusalem, That no Drunkard, no Adulterer, nor Railer enters there? I wish there did not, my Brothers.
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We Ministers should not then so oft be called Dumb Doggs, Idol shepheards, Limbs of Antichrist, Baals Priests, by Tongues, wich if S. Iames say true, are set on fire of Hell.
We Ministers should not then so oft be called Dumb Dogs, Idol shepherds, Limbs of Antichrist, Baal's Priests, by Tongues, which if S. James say true, Are Set on fire of Hell.
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If then, it be not the meaning of S. Paul in that place, that we should separate from all because some of those All are wicked, upon what other just Ground doe they break Communion with us? Is it because we preach in Churches ? They are Gods House of prayer. Made his by the Piety, and Devotion of our Fathers, who if they lived now would hardly call them Saints, who preferre a Barne, nay a Hog-stye before a consecrated Temple. Or is it because there is Haeresie or Superstition mixt with our once Common Forme of prayer? If there had been, you see that scandall is removed.
If then, it be not the meaning of S. Paul in that place, that we should separate from all Because Some of those All Are wicked, upon what other just Ground do they break Communion with us? Is it Because we preach in Churches? They Are God's House of prayer. Made his by the Piety, and Devotion of our Father's, who if they lived now would hardly call them Saints, who prefer a Bairn, nay a Hogsty before a consecrated Temple. Or is it Because there is Heresy or Superstition mixed with our once Common Form of prayer? If there had been, you see that scandal is removed.
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Or doe we persecute, or force, or drive them from our Congregations ? We are so farre from that, that you see, they are ready to require that our publick Congregations, should stoope, and bow the Knee to their private Meetings. What other secret reason tis which thus divides them from us, I can by no meanes think,
Or do we persecute, or force, or drive them from our Congregations? We Are so Far from that, that you see, they Are ready to require that our public Congregations, should stoop, and bow the Knee to their private Meetings. What other secret reason this which thus divides them from us, I can by no means think,
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unlesse it be wrapt up in the Mystery and cloud of the 18. chap. of the Revelations, which is their other strong Herculean place of Scripture, which hath been urged to me to make good their Separation. From which dark place of Scripture when I have removed the veyle and Curtaine, I will put a period, and conclusion to this Sermon.
unless it be wrapped up in the Mystery and cloud of the 18. chap. of the Revelations, which is their other strong Herculean place of Scripture, which hath been urged to me to make good their Separation. From which dark place of Scripture when I have removed the veil and Curtain, I will put a Period, and conclusion to this Sermon.
As you may read at the 2. verse of that chapter. Tis farther said, That he heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her my people, that yee be not partakers of her sinnes,
As you may read At the 2. verse of that chapter. This farther said, That he herd Another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her my people, that ye be not partakers of her Sins,
As you may read at the 4. verse of that chapter, where by Babylon fallen, they understand the Church of England fal•e. By the Habitation of Divels, the Hold of foule Spirits, and Cage of uncleane Birds. They understand our Parish Churches, and Congregations which meet there;
As you may read At the 4. verse of that chapter, where by Babylon fallen, they understand the Church of England fal•e. By the Habitation of Devils, the Hold of foul Spirits, and Cage of unclean Birds. They understand our Parish Churches, and Congregations which meet there;
which, they say, are so much a Cage of uncleane Birds, places so corrupt, so full of wickednesse, and sinne, that God, by his Spirit, as it were, by a voice from the Clouds, hath said unto them, Come out of them, my people, divide your selves from them, lest ye be partakers of this sinnes, and go sharers in their plagues. This is,
which, they say, Are so much a Cage of unclean Birds, places so corrupt, so full of wickedness, and sin, that God, by his Spirit, as it were, by a voice from the Clouds, hath said unto them, Come out of them, my people, divide your selves from them, lest you be partakers of this Sins, and go sharers in their plagues. This is,
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or else 'twill no way serve to uphold their Separation. If, I say, by the Habitation of Divells, and Cage of uncleane Birds be not meant our Church Assemblyes, from which they doe divide, they doe but build a House of straw, and choose the sand for a Foundation. I am sure I have been told that this was the very Interpretation which the Gentleman gave of this place ▪ who just now disputed with me, at a dispute which not long since he had with Mr. Gibson of Chinner.
or Else it'll not weigh serve to uphold their Separation. If, I say, by the Habitation of Devils, and Cage of unclean Birds be not meant our Church Assemblies, from which they do divide, they do but built a House of straw, and choose the sand for a Foundation. I am sure I have been told that this was the very Interpretation which the Gentleman gave of this place ▪ who just now disputed with me, At a dispute which not long since he had with Mr. Gibson of Chinner.
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Among the severall Expounders of the Revelation, I once met with one, who when he came to interpret the Seven Angels, which blew the Seven Trumpets. He said that by one of those Angels was meant Luther, by another Queen Elizabeth. And when he came to give the meaning of the Locusts which ascended from the Bottomelesse pit, with Crowns on their Heads, by the Locusts, He understood Schollers of the Vniversitie ;
Among the several Expounders of the Revelation, I once met with one, who when he Come to interpret the Seven Angels, which blew the Seven Trumpets. He said that by one of those Angels was meant Luther, by Another Queen Elizabeth. And when he Come to give the meaning of the Locusts which ascended from the Bottomless pit, with Crowns on their Heads, by the Locusts, He understood Scholars of the university;
And by the Crownes on their Heads, He understood Square Caps. Methinkes, these kinde of people deale just so with this place of the Revelation. They see strange visions in it which S. Iohn never saw;
And by the Crowns on their Heads, He understood Square Caps. Methinks, these kind of people deal just so with this place of the Revelation. They see strange visions in it which S. John never saw;
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yet, by the benefit of a New-light, they can see sights which no other Eyes can see without being present in the place to which soul Spirits do resort, (as if they had borrowed one of Galilaeo 's Glasses) they can see Divels take Notes at our Sermons. But whether in short-Hand, or at length, S. Iohn hath not revealed.
yet, by the benefit of a New-light, they can see sights which no other Eyes can see without being present in the place to which soul Spirits do resort, (as if they had borrowed one of Galileo is Glasses) they can see Devils take Notes At our Sermons. But whither in short-Hand, or At length, S. John hath not revealed.
I am compelled to be so when I meet with people who deale with the Scripture, as men of melancholly Fancyes use to deale with the Clouds. For as I have knowne some Hypocondriack men, who have faigned to themselves flying Horses, winged Troops, and Ships sayling in the Aire ;
I am compelled to be so when I meet with people who deal with the Scripture, as men of melancholy Fancies use to deal with the Clouds. For as I have known Some Hypochondriac men, who have feigned to themselves flying Horses, winged Troops, and Ships sailing in the Air;
But here may some man say to me, if they mistake this place, whats your Interpretation of it ? Why, my Interpretation is the very same which S. Iohn Himselfe delivers, Rev. 14.8. Where the Angel expresseth himself in the very same words.
But Here may Some man say to me, if they mistake this place, whats your Interpretation of it? Why, my Interpretation is the very same which S. John Himself delivers, Rev. 14.8. Where the Angel Expresses himself in the very same words.
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Namely, the City of Rome, when 'twas the seat of Heathen Emperours. Lastly, that Great City, which gave Laws to all the World, to worship her False Gods, and to partake of her Idolatryes. And this was that Great City, which S. Iohn calls Babylon ;
Namely, the city of Room, when 'twas the seat of Heathen emperors. Lastly, that Great city, which gave Laws to all the World, to worship her False God's, and to partake of her Idolatries. And this was that Great city, which S. John calls Babylon;
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Because as Babylon was the Head City of the Persian Monarchy, so Rome was then the Head City of the Roman. In a word, this is that Great City, which was then the great Court of Idolatry ▪ the Queen of Superstitions ;
Because as Babylon was the Head city of the Persian Monarchy, so Room was then the Head city of the Roman. In a word, this is that Great city, which was then the great Court of Idolatry ▪ the Queen of Superstitions;
And therefore, justly called by the Angel which spoke to S. Iohn, The Habitation of Divels, and Cage of uncleane Birds. And from this Babylon, this Rome, the then City of confusion, the Angel of God bid the Christians of those Times to come forth, and separate themselves ;
And Therefore, justly called by the Angel which spoke to S. John, The Habitation of Devils, and Cage of unclean Birds. And from this Babylon, this Room, the then city of confusion, the Angel of God bid the Christians of those Times to come forth, and separate themselves;
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lest they should be partakers of her sins, and go sharers in her plagues. But to say as they do, that the Church of England is that Babylon the great ;
lest they should be partakers of her Sins, and go sharers in her plagues. But to say as they do, that the Church of England is that Babylon the great;
or that our Parish Congregations from which they do divide themselves, are the Habitation of Divels, the Hold of foule spirits, and Cage of unclean Birds here mentioned in this chap. is such a piece of Ignorance, as well as zealous slander, that they will never be able to prove it, till they can make the Capitol of Rome stand in our London streets, or till they can make the River Tiber run, where now our Thames doth;
or that our Parish Congregations from which they do divide themselves, Are the Habitation of Devils, the Hold of foul spirits, and Cage of unclean Birds Here mentioned in this chap. is such a piece of Ignorance, as well as zealous slander, that they will never be able to prove it, till they can make the Capitol of Room stand in our London streets, or till they can make the River Tiber run, where now our Thames does;
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or till they can change the Countries in our Mapps, and make the Mid-land Sea flow on our English shore. And farther then this I will not trespasse on your patience ;
or till they can change the Countries in our Maps, and make the Midland Sea flow on our English shore. And farther then this I will not trespass on your patience;
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