A sermon preached before the Right Honourable the lord mayor, and the Court of Aldermen, at the Guild-Hall Chappel on November the 23d. 1684 by Thomas Wagstaffe ...
AMONG other the Reproaches laid upon the Church of England by its Adversaries, one is that its Impositions are of a Scandalous Nature, that it injoyns such things,
AMONG other the Reproaches laid upon the Church of England by its Adversaries, one is that its Impositions Are of a Scandalous Nature, that it enjoins such things,
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as are offnsieve to Weak Brethren, and the very Words I have read to you are (tho ignorantly) yet petulantly enough applyed to Charge the Church with Sin against Christ, in offending the Weak Consciences of the Brethren of the Separation;
as Are offnsieve to Weak Brothers, and the very Words I have read to you Are (though ignorantly) yet petulantly enough applied to Charge the Church with since against christ, in offending the Weak Consciences of the Brothers of the Separation;
as if the imposing two or three Ceremonies, were as Injurious to tender minds now, as eating of Meat Sacrificed to Idols in the beginning of Christianity.
as if the imposing two or three Ceremonies, were as Injurious to tender minds now, as eating of Meat Sacrificed to Idols in the beginning of Christianity.
It will not (I conceive) be unbecoming the filial Piety of a true Son, to vindicate the Innocence of his Mother, to wipe of those Aspertions which have been cast upon her, either by the Ignorant,
It will not (I conceive) be unbecoming the filial Piety of a true Son, to vindicate the Innocence of his Mother, to wipe of those Aspersions which have been cast upon her, either by the Ignorant,
First, To state the Notion or Nature of Scandal or Offence, as it is represented to us in the Gospel. 2. To inquire whether those that urge this against us, are really offended in a Gospel Sense,
First, To state the Notion or Nature of Scandal or Offence, as it is represented to us in the Gospel. 2. To inquire whither those that urge this against us, Are really offended in a Gospel Sense,
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First. That this cannot with any Sense or Conscience be urged by them that are offended. 2. If the Matter of Offence be in things indifferent, we cannot forbear them upon account of a weak Brother, where our Liberty is already determined. 3. Tho they are not offended by us, they are really offended by the Leaders of the Separation. 4. The Church of England hath given no Occasion of offence to any.
First. That this cannot with any Sense or Conscience be urged by them that Are offended. 2. If the Matter of Offence be in things indifferent, we cannot forbear them upon account of a weak Brother, where our Liberty is already determined. 3. Though they Are not offended by us, they Are really offended by the Leaders of the Separation. 4. The Church of England hath given no Occasion of offence to any.
and in doing this I shall indeavour to consider the most important Cases mentioned in the new Testament: (from whence only we can have it) and from thence frame such a Notion as is agreeable to that Representation the Gospel makes of it.
and in doing this I shall endeavour to Consider the most important Cases mentioned in the new Testament: (from whence only we can have it) and from thence frame such a Notion as is agreeable to that Representation the Gospel makes of it.
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There are two Cases largely spoken to by St. Paul in the Epistles, one is the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Chapters to the Romans, the other is the Eighth and Tenth Chapters of the first Epistle to the Corinthians. Both these I shall briefly consider.
There Are two Cases largely spoken to by Saint Paul in the Epistles, one is the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Chapters to the Roman, the other is the Eighth and Tenth Chapters of the First Epistle to the Corinthians. Both these I shall briefly Consider.
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who had not yet worn out the sence of Moses's Law but thought themselves, and all others also converted to Christianity (in some measure) under the binding power of it,
who had not yet worn out the sense of Moses's Law but Thought themselves, and all Others also converted to Christianity (in Some measure) under the binding power of it,
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as to the Observation of Days, Meats, &c. The Gentile Christians on the contrary, esteem'd themselves free from all such Observations, that these were on parts of the Gospel dispensation, that therefore neither they nor the Jews themselves ought to have any regard or account for them;
as to the Observation of Days, Meats, etc. The Gentile Christians on the contrary, esteemed themselves free from all such Observations, that these were on parts of the Gospel Dispensation, that Therefore neither they nor the jews themselves ought to have any regard or account for them;
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and there were fears, the Jews might be discourag'd from Christianity, by unseasonablly exploding those things, which they knew were of divine Institution;
and there were fears, the jews might be discouraged from Christianity, by unseasonablly exploding those things, which they knew were of divine Institution;
or an occasion to fall in his Brothers way (Ver. 13.) the prejudices of Education and Customs (especially those that had such a Sanction as those of the Jews ) would not be so soon worn out;
or an occasion to fallen in his Brother's Way (Ver. 13.) the prejudices of Education and Customs (especially those that had such a Sanction as those of the jews) would not be so soon worn out;
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and the severe insisting upon, or (which is worse) the reproachfully and contemptuously inveighing against them, would rather avert and hinder new proselytes (especially those of scrupulous and doubting minds) then any way engage them to another Doctrine, or way of Religion.
and the severe insisting upon, or (which is Worse) the reproachfully and contemptuously inveighing against them, would rather avert and hinder new Proselytes (especially those of scrupulous and doubting minds) then any Way engage them to Another Doctrine, or Way of Religion.
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And so soon as they had entred into Christianity, presently to fall foul upon them, or to treat them disdainfully and haughtily for using them; would be the readiest course to drive them away.
And so soon as they had entered into Christianity, presently to fallen foul upon them, or to Treat them disdainfully and haughtily for using them; would be the Readiest course to drive them away.
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And therefore, too the thing be never so true, tho they were never so much convinc'd that the distinction of Days and Meats, &c. were wholly taken away by Christ,
And Therefore, too the thing be never so true, though they were never so much convinced that the distinction of Days and Meats, etc. were wholly taken away by christ,
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That the means whereby the weak Brethren were really (or likely to be) offended (in the Case I have recited) were reproaching and despising the Ceremonies of the Jews, tho they were really abrogated,
That the means whereby the weak Brothers were really (or likely to be) offended (in the Case I have recited) were reproaching and despising the Ceremonies of the jews, though they were really abrogated,
because Christ hath mad them free, and yet St. Paul (by vertue of his Christian Liberty) not to offend them he was among, could use an abrogated Rite,
Because christ hath mad them free, and yet Saint Paul (by virtue of his Christian Liberty) not to offend them he was among, could use an abrogated Rite,
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But some men have an odd and perverse Notion of things? They think they have Christian Liverty enough to break all the Laws and Injunctions of their Governours,
But Some men have an odd and perverse Notion of things? They think they have Christian Liberty enough to break all the Laws and Injunctions of their Governors,
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because an Idol is nothing, and so could not convey any Stain or Pollution to the Meat offer'd to it, that which was nothing could not infect Gods real Creatures:
Because an Idol is nothing, and so could not convey any Stain or Pollution to the Meat offered to it, that which was nothing could not infect God's real Creatures:
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for why should that which was nothing debar a Man of a Right which God had given him? To this St. Paul answers by granting the Reason that it's true,
for why should that which was nothing debar a Man of a Right which God had given him? To this Saint Paul answers by granting the Reason that it's true,
and part of the Idol Worship, and their Conscience being weak is defiled (Ver. 7.) those that had been newly converted from Idolatry, were not so fully weaned from their old Opinions and Customes;
and part of the Idol Worship, and their Conscience being weak is defiled (Ver. 7.) those that had been newly converted from Idolatry, were not so Fully weaned from their old Opinions and Customs;
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and when they saw them that were confirmed, or Eminent Christians doing the same things that Idolaters do, they might be perswaded that Idolatry was not so Vain a thing, and they.
and when they saw them that were confirmed, or Eminent Christians doing the same things that Idolaters do, they might be persuaded that Idolatry was not so Vain a thing, and they.
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For if any Man see thee which hast Knowledg sit at Meat in the Idols Temple, shall not the Conscience of him that is weak be emboldened to eat these things that are offered to Idols, and by that means, having not the same Sence and estimate of things, be made a formal Idolator, and through thy Knowledg shall the weak Brother perish for whom Christ dyed? ( ver. 10.11.) If therefore the Liberty a knowing Christian hath, be thus perversely used,
For if any Man see thee which haste Knowledge fit At Meat in the Idols Temple, shall not the Conscience of him that is weak be emboldened to eat these things that Are offered to Idols, and by that means, having not the same Sense and estimate of things, be made a formal Idolater, and through thy Knowledge shall the weak Brother perish for whom christ died? (for. 10.11.) If Therefore the Liberty a knowing Christian hath, be thus perversely used,
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And this, I conceive, is the sum, and full import of this place, and from these two places I have mentioned, we may take a full account of the Nature of Scandal, from hence are two things remarkable.
And this, I conceive, is the sum, and full import of this place, and from these two places I have mentioned, we may take a full account of the Nature of Scandal, from hence Are two things remarkable.
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His Religion is (as it were) pendulous, and any thing turns the Scales. Fair, and gentle, and prudent Behaviour may win him to a further embracing the Faith;
His Religion is (as it were) pendulous, and any thing turns the Scales. Fair, and gentle, and prudent Behaviour may win him to a further embracing the Faith;
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but inconsiderate, indiscreet, and uncharitable Methods may run him again into his former Errours, and this was plainly the Case of the Weak Persons in the places I have considered,
but inconsiderate, indiscreet, and uncharitable Methods may run him again into his former Errors, and this was plainly the Case of the Weak Persons in the places I have considered,
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But what is this to those amongst us? Is there no difference between the Case of new Converts and those Born and Bred up in Christianity? Who have suck'd in the principles of Religion with their milk, who have always liv'd under the power of it,
But what is this to those among us? Is there no difference between the Case of new Converts and those Born and Bred up in Christianity? Who have sucked in the principles of Religion with their milk, who have always lived under the power of it,
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if their Faith be so unsetled still, such weakness is not only a great shame, but I fear, when all hearts are try'd, will appear not weakness but wilfulness.
if their Faith be so unsettled still, such weakness is not only a great shame, but I Fear, when all hearts Are tried, will appear not weakness but wilfulness.
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Besides, what hath the Case of weakness to do with those, who as King James speakes are not only Strong, but Head-Strong, who are obstinately wedded to Foolish and unreasonable opinions, whom nothing of Lenity can win, nothing of reason can satisfy;
Beside, what hath the Case of weakness to do with those, who as King James speaks Are not only Strong, but Headstrong, who Are obstinately wedded to Foolish and unreasonable opinions, whom nothing of Lenity can win, nothing of reason can satisfy;
Our Saviour himself, and his Apostles, who always condescended to Weakness, yet vigorously and Zealously opposed themselves against perverseness, and stubbornness.
Our Saviour himself, and his Apostles, who always condescended to Weakness, yet vigorously and Zealously opposed themselves against perverseness, and stubbornness.
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And the being hindred from believing in Christ, or being induc'd to forsake that Belief afterwards, is the sence of most (if not all) of the places of the New Testament where the words Scandal or Offence are named, I shall need to instance but in two or three.
And the being hindered from believing in christ, or being induced to forsake that Belief afterwards, is the sense of most (if not all) of the places of the New Testament where the words Scandal or Offence Are nam, I shall need to instance but in two or three.
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as our Saviour himself interprets it, himself, and his Doctrine at ver. 20, 21. 'tis said, He that receiveth the Seed in Stony places, is he that heareth the Word,
as our Saviour himself interprets it, himself, and his Doctrine At for. 20, 21. it's said, He that receives the Seed in Stony places, is he that hears the Word,
So Saint Matthew 18th. Chapter ver. 6. Whosoever shall offend one of these little Ones that believe in me, that is, shall make them leave the Profession, or Practice of my Faith.
So Saint Matthew 18th. Chapter ver. 6. Whosoever shall offend one of these little Ones that believe in me, that is, shall make them leave the Profession, or Practice of my Faith.
Now this is matter of a very high Nature, and it is no Wonder that the Gospel, which takes so much care for the Salvation of all Men, should (as much as may be) indeavour to prevent the loss of any, Charity is the Summ of our Religion as to God,
Now this is matter of a very high Nature, and it is no Wonder that the Gospel, which Takes so much care for the Salvation of all Men, should (as much as may be) endeavour to prevent the loss of any, Charity is the Sum of our Religion as to God,
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so also to our Brother, and 'tis a duty incombent on all, both upon the account of God, of their Christianity and of their Neighbour, to propagate and spread it, and to use all fair means that others may entertain it, as well as our selves.
so also to our Brother, and it's a duty incombent on all, both upon the account of God, of their Christianity and of their Neighbour, to propagate and spread it, and to use all fair means that Others may entertain it, as well as our selves.
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If therefore, by any behaviour of ours, there is bred a dislike and aversion, and our Brother falls away from Christ, we betray our Saviour, we hinder his design and end in coming,
If Therefore, by any behaviour of ours, there is bred a dislike and aversion, and our Brother falls away from christ, we betray our Saviour, we hinder his Design and end in coming,
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These are things therefore of the highest concernment, and it is no wonder our Saviour and the Apostle gives such severe Rules and Injunctions concerning them.
These Are things Therefore of the highest concernment, and it is no wonder our Saviour and the Apostle gives such severe Rules and Injunctions Concerning them.
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'Tis no harsh order therefore, That we should by all means take care, that our Liberty is no a Stumbling Block to them that are Weak, (1 Cor. 8.9.) And the Apostle professes for himself, that if Meat make his Brother to offend, he will eat none while the World standeth.
It's no harsh order Therefore, That we should by all means take care, that our Liberty is no a Stumbling Block to them that Are Weak, (1 Cor. 8.9.) And the Apostle Professes for himself, that if Meat make his Brother to offend, he will eat none while the World Stands.
and truly he must have mean thoughts of Christian Charity, and of Mans Salvation, that will not deny himself a great many lawful Freedoms rather than his Brothers Salvation shall be hazarded,
and truly he must have mean thoughts of Christian Charity, and of men Salvation, that will not deny himself a great many lawful Freedoms rather than his Brother's Salvation shall be hazarded,
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for if it be a Scandal to drive a man from Christianity in the Whole, 'tis so (tho in an inferior degree) to occasion him to forsake any Part of it.
for if it be a Scandal to drive a man from Christianity in the whole, it's so (though in an inferior degree) to occasion him to forsake any Part of it.
The Reason and Ground of these Rules was that thereby Salvation was hazarded, and a Man's Sulvation is in danger (tho not equally nor so much) by his falling into Sin,
The Reason and Ground of these Rules was that thereby Salvation was hazarded, and a Man's Sulvation is in danger (though not equally nor so much) by his falling into since,
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the imposing them by the Church, or the using them our selves, what inconvenience soever they may bring to us, can never hazard them, who run from them as far as they are able.
the imposing them by the Church, or the using them our selves, what inconvenience soever they may bring to us, can never hazard them, who run from them as Far as they Are able.
Let our Ceremonies be as Anti-Christian and Idolatrous as they would have them, what harm is that to those, who will not so much as touch them with one of their Fingers? Had these People too great an opinion of Ceremonies, were they apt to worship and adore them,
Let our Ceremonies be as Antichristian and Idolatrous as they would have them, what harm is that to those, who will not so much as touch them with one of their Fingers? Had these People too great an opinion of Ceremonies, were they apt to worship and adore them,
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tho kneeling at the Sacrament should be Idolatry, and the Surpliss, and Common-Prayer downright Popery; yet the Christianity of such cannot be endangered by them.
though kneeling At the Sacrament should be Idolatry, and the Surplice, and Common prayer downright Popery; yet the Christianity of such cannot be endangered by them.
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For how can they be poluted, and their weak Consciences wounded by any thing they will not use? These People therefore think they are offended, only because they are angry and vexed,
For how can they be polluted, and their weak Consciences wounded by any thing they will not use? These People Therefore think they Are offended, only Because they Are angry and vexed,
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And an indifferency, coldness, or complying with them will nourish their mistakes, will confirm them in their ill grounded Opinion, and really offend them.
And an indifferency, coldness, or complying with them will nourish their mistakes, will confirm them in their ill grounded Opinion, and really offend them.
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because they do not use them, yet the Ceremonies being imposed by the Church, and they having such an Aversion to them, are thereby prejudic'd against our Communion,
Because they do not use them, yet the Ceremonies being imposed by the Church, and they having such an Aversion to them, Are thereby prejudiced against our Communion,
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This Objection I do not know that it is urged by any of them, nor indeed can it well be by those who think they have purer Ordinances, and purer Ways of Worship.
This Objection I do not know that it is urged by any of them, nor indeed can it well be by those who think they have Purer Ordinances, and Purer Ways of Worship.
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2. If the matter of Offence be in things indifferent, we cannot forbear them upon the account of a weak Brother, where our Liberty is already determin'd.
2. If the matter of Offence be in things indifferent, we cannot forbear them upon the account of a weak Brother, where our Liberty is already determined.
and to perform it, and therefore we read in the Scandals the Gospel speaks of; These that were offended were not so very Innocent, nor in a very hopeful Condition.
and to perform it, and Therefore we read in the Scandals the Gospel speaks of; These that were offended were not so very Innocent, nor in a very hopeful Condition.
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and who lead them into Schism, are the persons that really offend them, ( i.e. ) these are the Men that Occasion them to Sin. Those therefore that lead them into Conventicles,
and who led them into Schism, Are the Persons that really offend them, (i.e.) these Are the Men that Occasion them to Sin. Those Therefore that led them into Conventicles,
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and teach them to despise Dominion, and speak evil of Dignities, those that make them believe two or three Ceremonies are as heavy as the Mosaical Yoke, that by calling hard Names,
and teach them to despise Dominion, and speak evil of Dignities, those that make them believe two or three Ceremonies Are as heavy as the Mosaical Yoke, that by calling hard Names,
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Where therefore they learn to be proud and untractable, to be Factious and Schismatical, to be Seditious and Ungovernable, there it is they must lay their Offence.
Where Therefore they Learn to be proud and untractable, to be Factious and Schismatical, to be Seditious and Ungovernable, there it is they must lay their Offence.
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and 'tis some what odd, that Men should believe the Church of England is Popishly given, which notwithstanding is, (and any man may know it that will) the chiefest support of Protestanism,
and it's Some what odd, that Men should believe the Church of England is Popishly given, which notwithstanding is, (and any man may know it that will) the chiefest support of Protestantism,
and seperate from us, and fly from our Communion, And so long as they are made to believe, that when we kneel at the receiving the Communion, we are Idolaters, that the Cross in Baptism is making new Sacraments, that when they Communicate with us, they shall joyn themselves to a Company of Jews, Heathens, or Papists; these Men indeed are offended;
and separate from us, and fly from our Communion, And so long as they Are made to believe, that when we kneel At the receiving the Communion, we Are Idolaters, that the Cross in Baptism is making new Sacraments, that when they Communicate with us, they shall join themselves to a Company of jews, heathens, or Papists; these Men indeed Are offended;
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5. The Church of England hath upon no account given Occasion of Offence to any, she hath not done any thing that may Discourage any Honest Man in the way of his Salvation.
5. The Church of England hath upon no account given Occasion of Offence to any, she hath not done any thing that may Discourage any Honest Man in the Way of his Salvation.
And why should the Common Prayer, and the Sign of the Cross corrupt us, which did very well agree, with the Consciences of the best and purest Christians? But that which I shall chiefly insist on, is comprehened in these three Things.
And why should the Common Prayer, and the Signen of the Cross corrupt us, which did very well agree, with the Consciences of the best and Purest Christians? But that which I shall chiefly insist on, is comprehened in these three Things.
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And these three being made out, it will appear, that the Church is so far from being Occasion of offending the Weak, that she hath exercised all possible Lenity and Tenderness towards them.
And these three being made out, it will appear, that the Church is so Far from being Occasion of offending the Weak, that she hath exercised all possible Lenity and Tenderness towards them.
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as well the useful as others, a contrary Party might have been offended, and when they saw us reform from what was convenient, they might have esteemed the whole Reformation not just and necessary,
as well the useful as Others, a contrary Party might have been offended, and when they saw us reform from what was convenient, they might have esteemed the Whole Reformation not just and necessary,
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since the Apostle enjoyns, to give no offence, neither to the Jew, nor to the Gentile; it was (especially at that time when a Nation was to be converted from the dregs of Popery ) not only the Wisdom,
since the Apostle enjoins, to give no offence, neither to the Jew, nor to the Gentile; it was (especially At that time when a nation was to be converted from the dregs of Popery) not only the Wisdom,
And when they saw that we did not throw away the Mettle with the Dross, that we did not cast off things profitable with the unprofitable, it was a plain Evidence, that the end of the Reformation was Truth, not Design;
And when they saw that we did not throw away the Mettle with the Dross, that we did not cast off things profitable with the unprofitable, it was a plain Evidence, that the end of the Reformation was Truth, not Design;
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and a great many were by this means brought into the Church (for most of the Nation was converted) who in all probability, by other Furious Methods, by cutting up Root and Branch (as they call it) by destroying every thing then in use,
and a great many were by this means brought into the Church (for most of the nation was converted) who in all probability, by other Furious Methods, by cutting up Root and Branch (as they call it) by destroying every thing then in use,
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I know it is said, that this Method was proper enough in the Infant state of Reformation when mens minds were yet hankering after Ceremonies and they could not so soon be wean'd from their old Dotages, and therefore it might then be necessary to comply with them,
I know it is said, that this Method was proper enough in the Infant state of Reformation when men's minds were yet hankering After Ceremonies and they could not so soon be weaned from their old Dotages, and Therefore it might then be necessary to comply with them,
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than rash, inconsiderate, and hasty thoughts, than idle, intemperate, and ridiculous expressions? Is not the Cross, the Badg of our Christian profession? And when we are Baptiz'd into Christ's Death, is it not fit we should be minded of it? That we now take up the Cross,
than rash, inconsiderate, and hasty thoughts, than idle, intemperate, and ridiculous expressions? Is not the Cross, the Badge of our Christian profession? And when we Are Baptized into Christ's Death, is it not fit we should be minded of it? That we now take up the Cross,
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tho some Persons should not like them, or should fall into inconvenience by them, and the Reason is because the end of Laws is the good of the Society,
though Some Persons should not like them, or should fallen into inconvenience by them, and the Reason is Because the end of Laws is the good of the Society,
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if it belongs to her to look after Gods service, and if what she hath ordain'd tends to the more due and Solemn performance of the things of Religion, to make men, at their Worship Reverent and Devout,
if it belongs to her to look After God's service, and if what she hath ordained tends to the more due and Solemn performance of the things of Religion, to make men, At their Worship Reverend and Devout,
Good things offend none but the Evil, Humility and Charity offend the proud and the covetous, Unity and Peace are not agreeable to the turbulent and factious.
Good things offend none but the Evil, Humility and Charity offend the proud and the covetous, Unity and Peace Are not agreeable to the turbulent and factious.
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Neither will be Laws enjoyning Decency, Order, and Uniformity be pleasing to them, who love Distraction, Solvenliness, and Irreverence in Gods Worship.
Neither will be Laws enjoining Decency, Order, and Uniformity be pleasing to them, who love Distraction, Solvenliness, and Irreverence in God's Worship.
if they are still resolv'd to be mistaken, their mistakes are Obstinate and willful, and it is not in the Churches power to help it, she hath done all she can do, they may,
if they Are still resolved to be mistaken, their mistakes Are Obstinate and wilful, and it is not in the Churches power to help it, she hath done all she can do, they may,
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But surely it does not become us to feed their mistakes, and for want of acquainting them with their Duty, to suffer them to continue in error all their lives long;
But surely it does not become us to feed their mistakes, and for want of acquainting them with their Duty, to suffer them to continue in error all their lives long;
Innocent Ceremonies are not, but ill lives are offensive, vice was always Scandalous; and if this way we pervert any, we are responsible for the offences we cause.
Innocent Ceremonies Are not, but ill lives Are offensive, vice was always Scandalous; and if this Way we pervert any, we Are responsible for the offences we cause.
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But our faults will not make them Innocent, and an Irregular behaviour in a Church-Member will not justifie Pride, and Faction, and Schism in a Seperatist.
But our Faults will not make them Innocent, and an Irregular behaviour in a Church-Member will not justify Pride, and Faction, and Schism in a Separatist.
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What I shall therefore recommend is, that whereas they cannot speak against us as Rebels, Schismatics, Seditious, Turbulent, and unquiet, we may take care they shall not justly charge us with any other vice:
What I shall Therefore recommend is, that whereas they cannot speak against us as Rebels, Schismatics, Seditious, Turbulent, and unquiet, we may take care they shall not justly charge us with any other vice:
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but as the Apostle saith, (1 Pet. 2.12.) Let us have our Conversation Honest among them, that whereas they speak against us as evil-doers, they may be our good Works, which they shall behold glorify God in the Day of Visitation. FINIS.
but as the Apostle Says, (1 Pet. 2.12.) Let us have our Conversation Honest among them, that whereas they speak against us as evildoers, they may be our good Works, which they shall behold Glorify God in the Day of Visitation. FINIS.
