The churches and ministery of England, true churches and true ministery. Cleared, and proved, in a sermon / preach'd the 4th of May at Wiviliscombe; before a numerous congregation assembled together to hear the opposition, which had been long threatned to be made that day, by Mr Collier and others of his party, who, with the greatest strength the West would afford them, were present at the sermon. Wherein were these five things undeniably proved: 1. That a mixture of prophane and scandalous persons with reall saints, is not inconsistent with the Church of God or a true church. ... 5. And then, they also must needs be guilty, who forsake true churches and a lawfull ministry, to follow and hear unsent preachers. By Francis Fullwood minister of the Gospel at Staple Fitzpane in the county of Somerset. Before it there is an epistle and preface, shewing the manner, and a narrative subjoyned shewing the substance of the dispute after the sermon, (both which lasted nine hours.) Set forth by the ministers that were at the dispute, and attested under their hands.
THE CHURCHES & MINISTERY of ENGLAND, True Churches, and true Ministery. 1 COR. 1. 2. To the Church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be Saints, with all that in every place call upon the Name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours.
THE CHURCHES & MINISTERY of ENGLAND, True Churches, and true Ministry. 1 COR. 1. 2. To the Church of God which is At Corinth, to them that Are sanctified in christ jesus, called to be Saints, with all that in every place call upon the Name of jesus christ our Lord, both theirs and ours.
THese words conteining the object of Pauls salutation, shew us to whom he sends and dedicates this his Epistle, viz. in the first and stricter place, to the Church of God at Corinth;
THese words containing the Object of Paul's salutation, show us to whom he sends and dedicates this his Epistle, viz. in the First and Stricter place, to the Church of God At Corinth;
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even as it is subjoined, with all that in every place call upon (that is, by a Senecdoche, worship) the Name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours;
even as it is subjoined, with all that in every place call upon (that is, by a Synecdoche, worship) the Name of jesus christ our Lord, both theirs and ours;
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1. It is described in its specification, the Church of God. 2. Its situation, the Church of God at Corinth. 3. Its qualification, 'Tis sanctified in Christ Jesus, and called to be holy;
1. It is described in its specification, the Church of God. 2. Its situation, the Church of God At Corinth. 3. Its qualification, It's sanctified in christ jesus, and called to be holy;
The word NONLATINALPHABET (most easily derived from NONLATINALPHABET, evoco ) here rendred the Church, is frequently used for any company assembled together for any cause, both in prophane and holy Scriptures.
The word (most Easily derived from, evoco) Here rendered the Church, is frequently used for any company assembled together for any cause, both in profane and holy Scriptures.
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as this the Church of Corinth was, which is here so plainly distinguished from the two former, by this speciall attribute, Of God: It is not the Church of the devil or men, but the Church of God at Corinth.
as this the Church of Corinth was, which is Here so plainly distinguished from the two former, by this special attribute, Of God: It is not the Church of the Devil or men, but the Church of God At Corinth.
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1. The Scripture means sometimes by the Church of God, the whole invisible, mysticall body of Jesus Christ, viz. the whole number of the elect both in Heaven and earth that are or shall be gathered into one under Christ the head, Ephes. 5. 23. Col. 1. 24, 25. 2. Sometimes again the Scrpture useth the Church of God for the universall visible Church, which consisteth of all the particular Churches and persons) with their children) throughout the world that profess the true religion:
1. The Scripture means sometime by the Church of God, the Whole invisible, mystical body of jesus christ, viz. the Whole number of the elect both in Heaven and earth that Are or shall be gathered into one under christ the head, Ephesians 5. 23. Col. 1. 24, 25. 2. Sometime again the Scripture uses the Church of God for the universal visible Church, which Consisteth of all the particular Churches and Persons) with their children) throughout the world that profess the true Religion:
So it is used 1 Cor. 12. 12. 3. Sometimes also by a Metonimy, for the place it self where a certain number of the visible Church use to assemble. So 1 Cor. 11. 4. Sometimes also by a Synecdoche, for any number of Church-members where ever they be.
So it is used 1 Cor. 12. 12. 3. Sometime also by a Metonymy, for the place it self where a certain number of the visible Church use to assemble. So 1 Cor. 11. 4. Sometime also by a Synecdoche, for any number of Church-members where ever they be.
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There is now but one main thing behind (but that indeed is a main one) namely, the qualification of this Church of God at Corinth, which is blaz'd before us in the following words;
There is now but one main thing behind (but that indeed is a main one) namely, the qualification of this Church of God At Corinth, which is blazed before us in the following words;
These words do plainly intend the matter or members of the Church at Corinth, because all others are expressed afterwards, with all that in every place, &c. and also what these members are viz. of two sorts;
These words do plainly intend the matter or members of the Church At Corinth, Because all Others Are expressed afterwards, with all that in every place, etc. and also what these members Are viz. of two sorts;
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the words [ to all that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, ] are expounded by these latter words, called Saints: q. a. to all that are sanctified, or should be so;
the words [ to all that Are sanctified in christ jesus, ] Are expounded by these latter words, called Saints: q. a. to all that Are sanctified, or should be so;
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though not incompetent to a true Church, (as is plentifully manifest through his Epistles, &c. ) which I shall reduce and set before you under three heads.
though not incompetent to a true Church, (as is plentifully manifest through his Epistles, etc.) which I shall reduce and Set before you under three Heads.
3. Of piety and holiness ▪ (living neither godly, righteously, nor soberly: ) And first, in defect, I mean in discipline, which appears by their mixt and disorderly fellowship, not casting out the lewd and scandalous rout, cap. 5. with 11. as also abundantly, in excess, by schism: one despising Paul, and another Apollo; cap. 3. 4. Heresie, denying the resurrection of the body, 2 Cor. 15. Idolatry, 2 Cor. 6. with (to conclude) a most egregious prophanation of the holy Table, through ignorance, gluttony, drunkenness, &c. cap. 11. 21, &c.
3. Of piety and holiness ▪ (living neither godly, righteously, nor soberly:) And First, in defect, I mean in discipline, which appears by their mixed and disorderly fellowship, not casting out the lewd and scandalous rout, cap. 5. with 11. as also abundantly, in excess, by Schism: one despising Paul, and Another Apollo; cap. 3. 4. Heresy, denying the resurrection of the body, 2 Cor. 15. Idolatry, 2 Cor. 6. with (to conclude) a most egregious profanation of the holy Table, through ignorance, gluttony, Drunkenness, etc. cap. 11. 21, etc.
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Now doubtless all these great and gross corruptions, foreknown to Paul, and even just now, with this very Epistle, about to be reproved by him, in thus Church;
Now doubtless all these great and gross corruptions, foreknown to Paul, and even just now, with this very Epistle, about to be reproved by him, in thus Church;
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he could not so grosly bewray his flattery, or sin so deeply against his knowledge, as mean to call them reall Saints, all Saints, that were the members of it.
he could not so grossly bewray his flattery, or since so deeply against his knowledge, as mean to call them real Saints, all Saints, that were the members of it.
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FRom the Text thus opened, we descend to inferre some seasonable Points, which (like unto a chain) though every link be not fastned immediatly to the first, we shall finde have a plain and kindely dependance each upon other,
FRom the Text thus opened, we descend to infer Some seasonable Points, which (like unto a chain) though every link be not fastened immediately to the First, we shall find have a plain and kindly dependence each upon other,
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and they are these. 1. That a mixture of prophane and scandalous persons with reall Saints, is not inconsistent with the Church of God. or a true Church.
and they Are these. 1. That a mixture of profane and scandalous Persons with real Saints, is not inconsistent with the Church of God. or a true Church.
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for if there were prophane and scandalous persons in the Church of Corinth, and yet notwithstanding she bore the name of the Church of God, it must immediatly and naturally follows, that there may be prophane and scandalous persons in the Church of God:
for if there were profane and scandalous Persons in the Church of Corinth, and yet notwithstanding she boar the name of the Church of God, it must immediately and naturally follows, that there may be profane and scandalous Persons in the Church of God:
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they are the disease and trouble of the Church, but not its death: indeed, such gross and vile corruptions as we have found to have been in the Church of Corinth, are as inconsistent with a pure Church,
they Are the disease and trouble of the Church, but not its death: indeed, such gross and vile corruptions as we have found to have been in the Church of Corinth, Are as inconsistent with a pure Church,
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for any disease, except it be mortall; so neither doth Christ his body the Church. Both the naturall and misticall body may be true, though very corrupt:
for any disease, except it be Mortal; so neither does christ his body the Church. Both the natural and mystical body may be true, though very corrupt:
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and what I have before asserted, is undeniable, viz. That a mixture of profane and scandalous persons, with reall Saints, is not inconsistent with a Church of God, or a true Church:
and what I have before asserted, is undeniable, viz. That a mixture of profane and scandalous Persons, with real Saints, is not inconsistent with a Church of God, or a true Church:
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who suffered themselves to be soon carried away to another Gospel, who had lost the first love; who had those that maintained the doctrine of Baladm, with the heresie of the Nicolaitans;
who suffered themselves to be soon carried away to Another Gospel, who had lost the First love; who had those that maintained the Doctrine of Baladm, with the heresy of the Nicolaitans;
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and who lastly suffered the Prophetess Jezabel. to seduce the servants of Christ (as England too much) who yet notwithstanding are called Churches, yea and Churches of Christ:
and who lastly suffered the Prophetess Jezebel. to seduce the Servants of christ (as England too much) who yet notwithstanding Are called Churches, yea and Churches of christ:
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And therefore it was doubtless a very gross errour of Barroh and those of the old separation, to define the Church to be a company of faithfull people that truly worship Christ and readily obey him.
And Therefore it was doubtless a very gross error of Barroh and those of the old separation, to define the Church to be a company of faithful people that truly worship christ and readily obey him.
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Alas the Kingdom of God, that is, the Ministry sent to gather Churches, is a net that gathereth fish both good and bad: and the Church is a floor that hath chaff and wheat, and a through-separation shall never be attained, till the great distinguishing day comes.
Alas the Kingdom of God, that is, the Ministry sent to gather Churches, is a net that gathereth Fish both good and bad: and the Church is a floor that hath chaff and wheat, and a through-separation shall never be attained, till the great distinguishing day comes.
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for this doth immediatly tend to schisme, and if it raseth the foundation (as plainly appeareth) of those first Apostolicall Churches, well may it ours.
for this does immediately tend to Schism, and if it raseth the Foundation (as plainly appears) of those First Apostolical Churches, well may it ours.
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these, indeed, do send him forward so far as in them lies to death and the grave, however he may not be said to be dead, so long as his soul, his form abideth in him, which all these things cannot touch.
these, indeed, do send him forward so Far as in them lies to death and the grave, however he may not be said to be dead, so long as his soul, his from Abideth in him, which all these things cannot touch.
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before Rome was Antichrist, and all the Churches reformed from her Antichristianism, together with all Judicious Papists themselves, do jointly conclude, that the formall difference of the true Church, I mean, as visible, lies in communion in true Ordinances;
before Room was Antichrist, and all the Churches reformed from her Antichristianism, together with all Judicious Papists themselves, do jointly conclude, that the formal difference of the true Church, I mean, as visible, lies in communion in true Ordinances;
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but to be true, and if there remain but only so much as will carry the Ordinances to be of Christ, even so far are the Churches, the subjects thereof, the Churches of Christ.
but to be true, and if there remain but only so much as will carry the Ordinances to be of christ, even so Far Are the Churches, the subject's thereof, the Churches of christ.
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But to be a little clearer, might I judge here, I should conclude that the Ministery of the Word, rather then the Sacraments, contains the form of a particular visible Church,
But to be a little clearer, might I judge Here, I should conclude that the Ministry of the Word, rather then the Sacraments, contains the from of a particular visible Church,
but the form and difference of the visible Church of which the Sacraments are but seals, and seem to alter and change the nature, as the doctrine doth;
but the from and difference of the visible Church of which the Sacraments Are but Seals, and seem to altar and change the nature, as the Doctrine does;
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So that when the doctrine becomes antichristian, the seals thereof, can scarce be christian, though they be counterfet and would be so, this may not deny the baptism of Rome to be lawfull baptism;
So that when the Doctrine becomes Antichristian, the Seals thereof, can scarce be christian, though they be counterfeit and would be so, this may not deny the Baptism of Room to be lawful Baptism;
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for should they deny the holy T•inity, although they did baptise in the Name of the Father, Son and holy Ghost, I hardly judg it to be lawfull baptisme,
for should they deny the holy T•inity, although they did baptise in the Name of the Father, Son and holy Ghost, I hardly judge it to be lawful Baptism,
However this is safely concluded, that the chief essentiall mark or form of a true particular visible Church, consists in a fixt and setled visible fellowship in the ministry of the word of Christ.
However this is safely concluded, that the chief essential mark or from of a true particular visible Church, consists in a fixed and settled visible fellowship in the Ministry of the word of christ.
A Church is so called from its gathering together, and where is this so plainly seen as in its visible communion in the ministry of the word, especially being setled and constant? what advantage hath the Jew above the Gentile? the Church above the world? much every way,
A Church is so called from its gathering together, and where is this so plainly seen as in its visible communion in the Ministry of the word, especially being settled and constant? what advantage hath the Jew above the Gentile? the Church above the world? much every Way,
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and the using, hearing and receiving part. 1. The ministeriall Churches have their mark, viz. true doctrine, and this especially join'd with the other, is very potent to discover to us the true Church. For this see Matth. 23. 2, 3. As if Christ should say, join your selves to them;
and the using, hearing and receiving part. 1. The ministerial Churches have their mark, viz. true Doctrine, and this especially joined with the other, is very potent to discover to us the true Church. For this see Matthew 23. 2, 3. As if christ should say, join your selves to them;
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And answerable to this, is our Saviours rule, for triall of Prophets, By their fruit, that is, by their doctrine ye shall know what they be, whether true or false:
And answerable to this, is our Saviors Rule, for trial of prophets, By their fruit, that is, by their Doctrine you shall know what they be, whither true or false:
Now as the preaching of the word is a means to gather and constitute Churches at first, so it being usually occasionall only, it is not said to be a mark of the true Church:
Now as the preaching of the word is a means to gather and constitute Churches At First, so it being usually occasional only, it is not said to be a mark of the true Church:
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but being gathered by the word, and church'd by Baptism, the ministery setled and fix'd (as was said) among them, becomes an essentiall mark of the true Church.
but being gathered by the word, and churched by Baptism, the Ministry settled and fixed (as was said) among them, becomes an essential mark of the true Church.
since who can say where the true Church is, but where the true doctrine and ministry is fix'd and setled? and therefore we shall never read that God did ever divorce any Church,
since who can say where the true Church is, but where the true Doctrine and Ministry is fixed and settled? and Therefore we shall never read that God did ever divorce any Church,
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Which is most remarkable in the Jewish Church, who, while a Church, God did not deal so with any Nation, neither had the heathen knowledge of his Laws;
Which is most remarkable in the Jewish Church, who, while a Church, God did not deal so with any nation, neither had the heathen knowledge of his Laws;
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so that a people baptized, professing the true doctrine of Christ, and visibly united in the publike and constant hearing and receiving the doctrine of Christ, from the true Ministry, are a true Church,
so that a people baptised, professing the true Doctrine of christ, and visibly united in the public and constant hearing and receiving the Doctrine of christ, from the true Ministry, Are a true Church,
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I say, this profession is visibly, when the company do openly and visibly own and professe by frequenting the publike Ordinance of hearing, the true doctrine;
I say, this profession is visibly, when the company do openly and visibly own and profess by frequenting the public Ordinance of hearing, the true Doctrine;
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Now each of these, the setled Preaching, and constant receiving (by publike attending) the doctrine of Christ, are very good marks of a true particular visible Church;
Now each of these, the settled Preaching, and constant receiving (by public attending) the Doctrine of christ, Are very good marks of a true particular visible Church;
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and in both together I conceive consists the form of the same, viz. in a fixt and constant visible fellowship with God and each other in the sacred Ordinance of preaching and hearing the doctrine of Christ:
and in both together I conceive consists the from of the same, viz. in a fixed and constant visible fellowship with God and each other in the sacred Ordinance of preaching and hearing the Doctrine of christ:
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being starved to death through a Famine of the Word, with the Church of the Jews. 2. Or else being poysoned to death by contagious doctrine, with the Church of Rome.
being starved to death through a Famine of the Word, with the Church of the jews. 2. Or Else being poisoned to death by contagious Doctrine, with the Church of Room.
or contain the essence of a true Church, because these are common to Infidels. For the Preaching and hearing of the Word, as common with Insidels, is occasionall only,
or contain the essence of a true Church, Because these Are Common to Infidels. For the Preaching and hearing of the Word, as Common with Infidels, is occasional only,
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so where it hath so far wrought and prevailed, as that it is become fixt and constant with any people, it is to me a certain mark of gathered Churches;
so where it hath so Far wrought and prevailed, as that it is become fixed and constant with any people, it is to me a certain mark of gathered Churches;
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so truth of faith doth constitute the invisible Church, and profession thereof a visible Church, according to the rule, quae est ratio constitutiva partium, est etiam constitutiva totius.
so truth of faith does constitute the invisible Church, and profession thereof a visible Church, according to the Rule, Quae est ratio constitutiva partium, est etiam constitutiva totius.
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3. But considering how much of the form of the Church consists in this publike communion together, I cannot compare such a people better then to a man in a swound, in whom for a time the soul, the form, ceaseth to perform its formall actions;
3. But considering how much of the from of the Church consists in this public communion together, I cannot compare such a people better then to a man in a swoon, in whom for a time the soul, the from, ceases to perform its formal actions;
THe next conclusion doth naturally follow, and closely and immediatly depend upon the former, for since (as we have found) a mixture of prophane and scandalous persons with reall Saints, is not inconsistent with the Church of God, or a true Church;
THe next conclusion does naturally follow, and closely and immediately depend upon the former, for since (as we have found) a mixture of profane and scandalous Persons with real Saints, is not inconsistent with the Church of God, or a true Church;
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: but by Churches I mean not (though I highly commend that hand of wisedom that made the parochiall difference) the Parishes here (or at least not as under the notion of Parishes) but the fixt and setled and usuall assembling 〈 … 〉 consisting of Parishes, or more or lesse.
: but by Churches I mean not (though I highly commend that hand of Wisdom that made the parochial difference) the Parishes Here (or At least not as under the notion of Parishes) but the fixed and settled and usual assembling 〈 … 〉 consisting of Parishes, or more or less.
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In the proof whereof, though I might very safely confine my self to what hath been said, touching the essence and marks of a Church before, I shall lay my line somewhat larger, to make (if possible) surer work.
In the proof whereof, though I might very safely confine my self to what hath been said, touching the essence and marks of a Church before, I shall lay my line somewhat larger, to make (if possible) Surer work.
1. Neither of manners, nor 2. of government. 1. For manners, we confesse that the Lord hath much against us, both of sin and errour, disorder, prophanesse, blasphemy and heresie:
1. Neither of manners, nor 2. of government. 1. For manners, we confess that the Lord hath much against us, both of since and error, disorder, profaneness, blasphemy and heresy:
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no more then it did the Church of Corinth: unlesse there have been something revealed from heaven since then, that hath placed the essence of a visible Church in the conditions and manners of the members thereof;
no more then it did the Church of Corinth: unless there have been something revealed from heaven since then, that hath placed the essence of a visible Church in the conditions and manners of the members thereof;
all whose appurtenances savoured of Antichrist: yet could they never denominate our Churches Antichristian Churches: while our doctrine pure our heart was sound though our heads did ake:
all whose appurtenances savoured of Antichrist: yet could they never denominate our Churches Antichristian Churches: while our Doctrine pure our heart was found though our Heads did ache:
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as is very well known by those very men, that touching our corruptions were Non-conformists. But suppose we should give you what you beg for, that our Churches then under (I mean) the Episcopall government were Antichristian thereby:
as is very well known by those very men, that touching our corruptions were nonconformists. But suppose we should give you what you beg for, that our Churches then under (I mean) the Episcopal government were Antichristian thereby:
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and all their dependencies gone along with them? I hope then we are not Antichristian still? because you and your brethren were Heathens and Infidels before you were dipt, are you so still? that you will say is but poor reasoning:
and all their dependencies gone along with them? I hope then we Are not Antichristian still? Because you and your brothers were heathens and Infidels before you were dipped, Are you so still? that you will say is but poor reasoning:
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And as there is nothing in our Churches in England to make them false, so is there nothing wanting in them to make them true; now we can be pretended to want but 3. things that are necessary to a Church;
And as there is nothing in our Churches in England to make them false, so is there nothing wanting in them to make them true; now we can be pretended to want but 3. things that Are necessary to a Church;
Church-governours, Church-government, and Church-Covenant. Now as for Church-governours we have so many of them as the being of a Church (though not as the well-being of it) requires;
Church governors, Church-government, and Church-covenant. Now as for Church governors we have so many of them as the being of a Church (though not as the well-being of it) requires;
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since the form of a Church consists in Ordinances (not in Discipline) and we have sufficient administrers of them, who rule over us by speaking to us the word of God, Heb. 13. 7. 2. As for Church-government in some places, in some branches, viz. of discipline, 'tis wanting among us;
since the from of a Church consists in Ordinances (not in Discipline) and we have sufficient administrers of them, who Rule over us by speaking to us the word of God, Hebrew 13. 7. 2. As for Church-government in Some places, in Some branches, viz. of discipline, it's wanting among us;
but the want thereof cannot unchurch us, for the Church of Corinth wanted the same ( Cap. 5.) and yet is saluted as the Church of God. 3. And lastly, We want not either a Church-covenant, since the word of God requires it not. 2. Since we have it implicitly, though not expresly:
but the want thereof cannot unchurch us, for the Church of Corinth wanted the same (Cap. 5.) and yet is saluted as the Church of God. 3. And lastly, We want not either a Church-covenant, since the word of God requires it not. 2. Since we have it implicitly, though not expressly:
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for how can two walk together unlesse they be agreed? 3. Besides our Brethren of the Congregationall way that are so much for this Covenant, account us true Churches,
for how can two walk together unless they be agreed? 3. Beside our Brothers of the Congregational Way that Are so much for this Covenant, account us true Churches,
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and Censures too in many places with us? however what want we, essentiall to a Church, who have matter and form? matter, in that we have both reall Saints to gratifie you,
and Censures too in many places with us? however what want we, essential to a Church, who have matter and from? matter, in that we have both real Saints to gratify you,
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and for the first constitution of our Churches in England, though that be nothing to our present condition, we have largely cleared it in the debate related and printed after the Sermon.
and for the First constitution of our Churches in England, though that be nothing to our present condition, we have largely cleared it in the debate related and printed After the Sermon.
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Now the consequence here will not be questioned, however it is Analogicall, upon that Text, Gather my Saints together unto me allye that have made a Covenant with me, &c. implying hereby, by being in Covenant with God they are really a Church,
Now the consequence Here will not be questioned, however it is Analogical, upon that Text, Gather my Saints together unto me ally that have made a Covenant with me, etc. implying hereby, by being in Covenant with God they Are really a Church,
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But the Assumption hence, viz. That we are in Covenant with God, cals for proof, which is easily performed by three Arguments, viz. because we have the Seal of the Covenant, the word of the Covenant,
But the Assump hence, viz. That we Are in Covenant with God, calls for proof, which is Easily performed by three Arguments, viz. Because we have the Seal of the Covenant, the word of the Covenant,
as is the folly and weaknesse of too many with us, in renouncing their baptism. Now as this is the seal of the Covenant, so is it also the door of the Church; for persons though really converted by the preaching of the Gospel,
as is the folly and weakness of too many with us, in renouncing their Baptism. Now as this is the seal of the Covenant, so is it also the door of the Church; for Persons though really converted by the preaching of the Gospel,
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Go, disciple, but how must we disciple? why as before by circumeising, so now by baptizing, and in this Commission in Matthew to the Apostles, the Commission given to our Father Abraham, is but enlarged:
Go, disciple, but how must we disciple? why as before by circumeising, so now by baptizing, and in this Commission in Matthew to the Apostles, the Commission given to our Father Abraham, is but enlarged:
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Abraham chiefly, that one Nation to come out of his loines, together with all that would joyn as proselytes; and the Gospel Ministers must disciple all nations, (i.) so far as they can,
Abraham chiefly, that one nation to come out of his loins, together with all that would join as Proselytes; and the Gospel Ministers must disciple all Nations, (i.) so Far as they can,
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Abraham was commanded to disciple, by that initiating ordinance of Circumcision; and the Gospel Ministers, by this of Baptism: indeed there is teaching prerequisite, to prepare and fit men out of the Church for the ordinance of Baptism;
Abraham was commanded to disciple, by that initiating Ordinance of Circumcision; and the Gospel Ministers, by this of Baptism: indeed there is teaching prerequisite, to prepare and fit men out of the Church for the Ordinance of Baptism;
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and therefore we finde, that when heathen people were willing to become members of the Church, they had the Ordinance of initiation, Circumcision, to enter them in,
and Therefore we find, that when heathen people were willing to become members of the Church, they had the Ordinance of initiation, Circumcision, to enter them in,
Baptism wee see is the door of the Church, which further appears by Joh. 3. 5. Except a man be born again of water and of the spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God:
Baptism we see is the door of the Church, which further appears by John 3. 5. Except a man be born again of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God:
this Kingdom of God, I conceive to be the Church (for Christ is telling Nicodemus here of earthly things,) and you may conceive the Church invisible or visible:
this Kingdom of God, I conceive to be the Church (for christ is telling Nicodemus Here of earthly things,) and you may conceive the Church invisible or visible:
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if invisible, here is a door to let you in, the baptism of the spirit and regeneration reall: if visible, here is another door for that too, the baptism of water, a regeneration visible: a man may be born again (i) become a new man, two waies,
if invisible, Here is a door to let you in, the Baptism of the Spirit and regeneration real: if visible, Here is Another door for that too, the Baptism of water, a regeneration visible: a man may be born again (i) become a new man, two ways,
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or else a man may be born again in shew only, from a visible member of the world and the divel, discipled by baptism, and made thereby a visible member of Christ,
or Else a man may be born again in show only, from a visible member of the world and the Devil, discipled by Baptism, and made thereby a visible member of christ,
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which indeed is sometimes first, according to the order of the words, except a man be born again of water and of the spirit, he cannot enter into (the visible or invisible Church) the Kingdom of Heaven. Now to end with this, it cannot be denied upon a good ground,
which indeed is sometime First, according to the order of the words, except a man be born again of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into (the visible or invisible Church) the Kingdom of Heaven. Now to end with this, it cannot be denied upon a good ground,
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not only a pledg or token of the bargain, but the word of the Covenant also, the Scriptures in purity, and the Ordinances of them in power and fullness:
not only a pledge or token of the bargain, but the word of the Covenant also, the Scriptures in purity, and the Ordinances of them in power and fullness:
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And to make all sure, we have the peculiar blessings of the covenant which God bestows on none but such as are in covenant with him, his own Churches. These are chiefly three:
And to make all sure, we have the peculiar blessings of the Covenant which God bestows on none but such as Are in Covenant with him, his own Churches. These Are chiefly three:
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The first and inward blessing of the Covenant, is the blessing (I mean not only the common convictions, enlightenings with the knowledge of the Gospel, which is indeed peculiar to the Church however,
The First and inward blessing of the Covenant, is the blessing (I mean not only the Common convictions, enlightenings with the knowledge of the Gospel, which is indeed peculiar to the Church however,
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against sense, for bloudy experience hath proved that faith to be true that was wrought by our Ministery, in its subjects, martyrdome: and lastly against reason, yea, I may say, all Scripture too,
against sense, for bloody experience hath proved that faith to be true that was wrought by our Ministry, in its subject's, martyrdom: and lastly against reason, yea, I may say, all Scripture too,
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However you cannot over throw the Scriputre, which faith, Faith comes by hearing, and that by the Word of God preacht, by a sent Minister, which is usually fixt in a Church;
However you cannot over throw the Scripture, which faith, Faith comes by hearing, and that by the Word of God preached, by a sent Minister, which is usually fixed in a Church;
The second (outward) blessing peculiar to a Church in Covenant with God is his speciall Providence: for God hath doubtlesse a different care and providence over his garden the Church,
The second (outward) blessing peculiar to a Church in Covenant with God is his special Providence: for God hath doubtless a different care and providence over his garden the Church,
now all his dealings with us since reform'd and separate from the Church of Rome, hath plainly manifested his speciall gardencare and providence over us, who can deny it? not the Papists themselves, who have seen and felt such signall testimonies of it in 88. powder-Treason, &c. Hath God long agone cast us off as Antichristian Churches,
now all his dealings with us since reformed and separate from the Church of Rome, hath plainly manifested his special gardencare and providence over us, who can deny it? not the Papists themselves, who have seen and felt such signal testimonies of it in 88. Powder treason, etc. Hath God long ago cast us off as Antichristian Churches,
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and yet all the while still so remarkably kept us from the slavery of Antichrist? what an insufferable contradiction is this? nay more, consider his Providences towards us of late years:
and yet all the while still so remarkably kept us from the slavery of Antichrist? what an insufferable contradiction is this? nay more, Consider his Providences towards us of late Years:
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how long hath there been workings and stirrings in the bowels of this Land for a further reformation and distance from Rome? and how much in order thereunto of late hath God wrought for us? and all the while that we have been cleansing in the fire of affliction, what wonderfull power and goodnesse hath he shewn us? and is this the way that God useth to walk with a people divorc'd and cast away? who can lift up his face against heaven and say it? no rather, such a manner of neglecting the Apostle speaks of, if they be filthy, let them be filthy still;
how long hath there been workings and stirrings in the bowels of this Land for a further Reformation and distance from Room? and how much in order thereunto of late hath God wrought for us? and all the while that we have been cleansing in the fire of affliction, what wonderful power and Goodness hath he shown us? and is this the Way that God uses to walk with a people divorced and cast away? who can lift up his face against heaven and say it? no rather, such a manner of neglecting the Apostle speaks of, if they be filthy, let them be filthy still;
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which blessed be God, we have in abundance, who have the salutation of all the Churches, which the Apostle sets down as matter of comfort for us, Rom. 16. 16. Consider now, Have not the Churches the keys of the Kingdom,
which blessed be God, we have in abundance, who have the salutation of all the Churches, which the Apostle sets down as matter of Comfort for us, Rom. 16. 16. Consider now, Have not the Churches the keys of the Kingdom,
ARe our Churches Churches of God and true Churches? then hence it further follows that we conclude, The Ministery of our Churches is the Ministery of God and the true Ministery;
are our Churches Churches of God and true Churches? then hence it further follows that we conclude, The Ministry of our Churches is the Ministry of God and the true Ministry;
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but where the Churches of God, the true Churches are? and now had we nothing else to commend us unto you (unless you recede from your own principles) you cannot deny us a lawfull Ministery, who have call and allowance from true Churches.
but where the Churches of God, the true Churches Are? and now had we nothing Else to commend us unto you (unless you recede from your own principles) you cannot deny us a lawful Ministry, who have call and allowance from true Churches.
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and manifest them true Ministers, that is agreeable to the principles of their very adversaries; and this being found will easily carry us above contradiction. 2. To the principles of all other indifferent men. 3. To the principles and rules of the Word of God:
and manifest them true Ministers, that is agreeable to the principles of their very Adversaries; and this being found will Easily carry us above contradiction. 2. To the principles of all other indifferent men. 3. To the principles and rules of the Word of God:
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and we shall see their boasting vain, for they have no more in pretence then we have really: they acknowledge they have (and plead for) no more to give them a call,
and we shall see their boasting vain, for they have no more in pretence then we have really: they acknowledge they have (and plead for) no more to give them a call,
There are but four things left (since the men for shame have laid down their claim and pretence to a call immediate and extraordinary) that all of their party together professe to have any influence upon their call;
There Are but four things left (since the men for shame have laid down their claim and pretence to a call immediate and extraordinary) that all of their party together profess to have any influence upon their call;
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O brave, is this your plea for offering up of your strange fire, that hath so inflam'd and almost consumed the Churches of Christ? Is there no other way to vent the truth (if you know such a thing as truth) but from a pulpit? to set up your fire as a Beacon on a hill, to make a greater combustion among us? however my friends, consider a little, doth this give you a call? how can you then deny ours? do you think that none of our Ministers can say from their hearts the love of Christ constrains us: and woe is me if I preach not the Gospel? if so,
Oh brave, is this your plea for offering up of your strange fire, that hath so inflamed and almost consumed the Churches of christ? Is there no other Way to vent the truth (if you know such a thing as truth) but from a pulpit? to Set up your fire as a Beacon on a hill, to make a greater combustion among us? however my Friends, Consider a little, does this give you a call? how can you then deny ours? do you think that none of our Ministers can say from their hearts the love of christ constrains us: and woe is me if I preach not the Gospel? if so,
however suffer me to beg this question of you, what one gift have you wherein the Ministery you so much blame excell you not? unlesse it be in boldnesse and out-braving confidence? there are two great gifts the Apostle requires in a Gospel-Preacher, a being apt to teach, and able to convince gain-sayers:
however suffer me to beg this question of you, what one gift have you wherein the Ministry you so much blame excel you not? unless it be in boldness and outbraving confidence? there Are two great Gifts the Apostle requires in a Gospel preacher, a being apt to teach, and able to convince gainsayers:
if you are apt to teach, then the old rule fails (qui benè distinguit benè docet;) for you are the worst at distinguishing that ever I knew any (though indeed too cunning to divide) you cannot distinguish between extraordinary and ordinary sending; between invisible and visible Churches: between private and publike pteaching;
if you Are apt to teach, then the old Rule fails (qui benè distinguit benè docet;) for you Are the worst At distinguishing that ever I knew any (though indeed too cunning to divide) you cannot distinguish between extraordinary and ordinary sending; between invisible and visible Churches: between private and public pteaching;
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now whether you allow the first to us or no, the latter of these we cannot deny you, who are in this sense so apt to teach, that truly you Run before you are sent:
now whither you allow the First to us or not, the latter of these we cannot deny you, who Are in this sense so apt to teach, that truly you Run before you Are sent:
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but as this can never create a Minister in a setled Church, so is it greatest arrogance for you to claim it, with defect in charity or excesse in impudence to deny it us:
but as this can never create a Minister in a settled Church, so is it greatest arrogance for you to claim it, with defect in charity or excess in impudence to deny it us:
besides, that desire and invitation to be preachers they have from their friends and acquaintance, which is all for the most part that any of you can plead or challenge.
beside, that desire and invitation to be Preachers they have from their Friends and acquaintance, which is all for the most part that any of you can plead or challenge.
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and can you deny us any part of it? nay, dare you say, that in those very things we have not the advantage? How then, I pray you, is it, that you speak so boldly, that you rail so frequently, publikely, bitterly against us? and tell the people with all confidence, That you are the men that are called and sent by God himself to preach the Gospel,
and can you deny us any part of it? nay, Dare you say, that in those very things we have not the advantage? How then, I pray you, is it, that you speak so boldly, that you rail so frequently, publicly, bitterly against us? and tell the people with all confidence, That you Are the men that Are called and sent by God himself to preach the Gospel,
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Have you one grain more? yea, have you not many grains less then we, in these very particulars your selves boast of? I beseech you, in the name of God, consider this,
Have you one grain more? yea, have you not many grains less then we, in these very particulars your selves boast of? I beseech you, in the name of God, Consider this,
and let it for ever stop those mouthes that preach so much against our call; that they either preach no more who have no better call, then what they condemn;
and let it for ever stop those mouths that preach so much against our call; that they either preach no more who have no better call, then what they condemn;
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The first particular of them, is, humane learning; this our adversaries allow us to have, who do not so much for the generall part of them as pretend unto it:
The First particular of them, is, humane learning; this our Adversaries allow us to have, who do not so much for the general part of them as pretend unto it:
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and be not now unwilling, beloved, to suffer that little we have of it to commend us so far above them that want it. O but alas! you abuse it, say they:
and be not now unwilling, Beloved, to suffer that little we have of it to commend us so Far above them that want it. O but alas! you abuse it, say they:
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so beloved do you your gifts, and must you therefore despise and reject them? I pray you, examine, doth not your knowledge puffe you up that lifts you so high as the pulpit,
so Beloved doe you your Gifts, and must you Therefore despise and reject them? I pray you, examine, does not your knowledge puff you up that lifts you so high as the pulpit,
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and higher yet in your own conceit and vain-boasting? this I am certain of, that if we do abuse learning, you abuse both it and us much more: (I speak not here of your undervaluing,
and higher yet in your own conceit and vain-boasting? this I am certain of, that if we do abuse learning, you abuse both it and us much more: (I speak not Here of your undervaluing,
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it doth not make us Ministers (for that I shall shew you anon, we have by Ordination according to the Word) but able Ministers. Beloved, do not think that humane learning is an enemy to God, which is indeed the chiefest outward blessing of this life, it being not obnox•ous to the worlds violence as all other outward blessings are,
it does not make us Ministers (for that I shall show you anon, we have by Ordination according to the Word) but able Ministers. beloved, do not think that humane learning is an enemy to God, which is indeed the chiefest outward blessing of this life, it being not obnox•ous to the world's violence as all other outward blessings Are,
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Consider the penmen of holy Scripture, and to whom among them, if it be safe to make such a comparison, are we most beholding? and consider whether they had not the benefit of humane learning.
Consider the penmen of holy Scripture, and to whom among them, if it be safe to make such a comparison, Are we most beholding? and Consider whither they had not the benefit of humane learning.
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As for Moses, that publike Minister and honourable penman of the very theme and ground of the old Testament, he was learned in all the learning of the Egyptians:
As for Moses, that public Minister and honourable penman of the very theme and ground of the old Testament, he was learned in all the learning of the egyptians:
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had not these, all of them, the gift and blessing of humane learning? Solomon, the wisest of men, the greatest Philosopher that ever was, who writ from the Cedar to the Isop that growes upon the wall:
had not these, all of them, the gift and blessing of humane learning? Solomon, the Wisest of men, the greatest Philosopher that ever was, who writ from the Cedar to the Isop that grows upon the wall:
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Isaiah bred up at the Court, and had by his own conf•ssion the tongue of the learned: and who know's not that Paul was bred up at the feet of Gamaliel?
Isaiah bred up At the Court, and had by his own conf•ssion the tongue of the learned: and who know's not that Paul was bred up At the feet of Gamaliel?
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History, Tongues, and Arts, and these only so far as they are necessary helps for true understanding and expounding the Scripture, which is our onely text to preach upon:
History, Tongues, and Arts, and these only so Far as they Are necessary helps for true understanding and expounding the Scripture, which is our only text to preach upon:
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and those that have attained a ripeness in them, are the more to be commended and honoured, by how much the more they are fitter for their work thereby. 1. For History, the story of the Bible commends that to us,
and those that have attained a ripeness in them, Are the more to be commended and honoured, by how much the more they Are fitter for their work thereby. 1. For History, the story of the bible commends that to us,
nor Prophecies, nor Promises, belonging to our times, can well, if at all, be understood. 2. For Arts, we require no more then may serve to answer the Apostles precepts before named, that a man that desires the office of a Bishop be able to convince gainsayers, and apt to teach;
nor Prophecies, nor Promises, belonging to our times, can well, if At all, be understood. 2. For Arts, we require no more then may serve to answer the Apostles Precepts before nam, that a man that Desires the office of a Bishop be able to convince gainsayers, and apt to teach;
which cannot, indeed, as experience proves in these times of ordinary acquiring abilities be gained and had without competent acquaintance with Logick and Rhetorick. 3. And lastly for Tongues, I only desire you to think with your selves,
which cannot, indeed, as experience Proves in these times of ordinary acquiring abilities be gained and had without competent acquaintance with Logic and Rhetoric. 3. And lastly for Tongues, I only desire you to think with your selves,
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how it had been possible for Apostles themselves to have kept their commission, and preacht to all nations, as in Acts 2. unles they had had the gift of languages: and whether the gift of tongues be such a contemptible thing as you make it,
how it had been possible for Apostles themselves to have kept their commission, and preached to all Nations, as in Acts 2. unless they had had the gift of languages: and whither the gift of tongues be such a contemptible thing as you make it,
if acquired, which we see God made (when inspir'd) the great gospel miracle, and means for the transplanting his Church from the Jew to the Gentiles? withall,
if acquired, which we see God made (when inspired) the great gospel miracle, and means for the transplanting his Church from the Jew to the Gentiles? withal,
Yea, my brethren, if you recollect, you may easily remember that sensible experience shew'd you the good and need of all three, at that one [ late ] conference with us at Wiviliscombe: where your selves had occasion to quote the Original: to retire to the state of our Churches in England for many years agon: and also to dispute in form and method; which if you remember not, above a thousand of people I suppose will for you:
Yea, my brothers, if you recollect, you may Easily Remember that sensible experience showed you the good and need of all three, At that one [ late ] conference with us At Wiviliscombe: where your selves had occasion to quote the Original: to retire to the state of our Churches in England for many Years agon: and also to dispute in from and method; which if you Remember not, above a thousand of people I suppose will for you:
poor souls, you little imagine, of what dangerous consequence, the renouncing of the ordinance of Baptism is, which was in due time administer'd to you in a true Church, by a lawfull Minister;
poor Souls, you little imagine, of what dangerous consequence, the renouncing of the Ordinance of Baptism is, which was in due time administered to you in a true Church, by a lawful Minister;
O which way, can you then become true Ministers? or be allowed so to be by any lawful Church? out this should seem to be according to your principles, which is so agreeable to many of your practices;
O which Way, can you then become true Ministers? or be allowed so to be by any lawful Church? out this should seem to be according to your principles, which is so agreeable to many of your practices;
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there are two fellows, within our knowledge here, within a few miles of this place, that were publike preachers, (and one of them to my knowledge hath taken a Church, a Parish, a Pulpit upon him,
there Are two Fellows, within our knowledge Here, within a few miles of this place, that were public Preachers, (and one of them to my knowledge hath taken a Church, a Parish, a Pulpit upon him,
though so gross and ridiculous, I could not hansomely leave it out.) Then no wonder if all Christian Churches and Christian Councils renounce and condemn such unworthy preachers as you are;
though so gross and ridiculous, I could not handsomely leave it out.) Then no wonder if all Christian Churches and Christian Councils renounce and condemn such unworthy Preachers as you Are;
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and may commend our selves to you and to all people else, without vainglory, as judged worthy by the spirits of the Prophets, whom all the Churches of Christ salute, a thing not sleighted by modest men.
and may commend our selves to you and to all people Else, without vainglory, as judged worthy by the spirits of the prophets, whom all the Churches of christ salute, a thing not sleighted by modest men.
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A third particular that men may justly look for in the Ministers of the Gospel is, that they be fixt and setled: and this may commend the Ministers of England above their opposers, who are not fixt either with regard to place or time. 1. With regard to place;
A third particular that men may justly look for in the Ministers of the Gospel is, that they be fixed and settled: and this may commend the Ministers of England above their opposers, who Are not fixed either with regard to place or time. 1. With regard to place;
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while since the Apostolicall times, such a steering, Ministery was never known, in a setled Church not under persecution that could make a lawfull president,
while since the Apostolical times, such a steering, Ministry was never known, in a settled Church not under persecution that could make a lawful president,
Indeed a setled Church of Christ may sometimes appoint some able men (whom with safety and prudence they may) to preach the Gospel among the heathens: or upon some notable exigence,
Indeed a settled Church of christ may sometime appoint Some able men (whom with safety and prudence they may) to preach the Gospel among the Heathens: or upon Some notable exigence,
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and never remember themselves to be in a constituted Church, wherein indeed though the labourers be few, yet is there no such extraordinary need of such preachers as they.
and never Remember themselves to be in a constituted Church, wherein indeed though the labourers be few, yet is there no such extraordinary need of such Preachers as they.
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like the proud inconstant waves of the sea in a storm, raving, raging, roaring and dashing against the rock the Church (the fixt and abiding foundation of our house) untill they dashed themselves to pieces, fiaming out their own shame, and fretting and chasing themselves away into ayr and nothing:
like the proud inconstant waves of the sea in a storm, raving, raging, roaring and dashing against the rock the Church (the fixed and abiding Foundation of our house) until they dashed themselves to Pieces, fiaming out their own shame, and fretting and chasing themselves away into air and nothing:
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while the Church of Christ, and the setled Ministery hath stood as mount Sion that cannot be moved throughout both storms and ages. The Scripture doth more then allude to the difference in hand, describing them thus;
while the Church of christ, and the settled Ministry hath stood as mount Sion that cannot be moved throughout both storms and ages. The Scripture does more then allude to the difference in hand, describing them thus;
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Like to this is that other expression, there are many false prophets gone out, of their own accord, running before they are sent: while the true ones stay for Commission and mission,
Like to this is that other expression, there Are many false Prophets gone out, of their own accord, running before they Are sent: while the true ones stay for Commission and mission,
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for how shall they preach except they be sent, yea and thrust out too sometimes? 2. False prophets shall arise (i.) from beneath: while the true ones with Paul have their call from Heaven, and come down from above,
for how shall they preach except they be sent, yea and thrust out too sometime? 2. False Prophets shall arise (i.) from beneath: while the true ones with Paul have their call from Heaven, and come down from above,
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Now let it be supposed that the scale is even in other respects, yet doubtless there's something of weight in this in the balance of reason indifferently carried:
Now let it be supposed that the scale is even in other respects, yet doubtless there's something of weight in this in the balance of reason indifferently carried:
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The fourth and last particular thing I shall mention here, that men may expect in the Preachers of the Word in a Christian Common-wealth, is allowance and order from the Christian Magistrate:
The fourth and last particular thing I shall mention Here, that men may expect in the Preachers of the Word in a Christian Commonwealth, is allowance and order from the Christian Magistrate:
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but as for us, the setled Ministery of Christ in England, 'tis known to the world, we are own'd and authoriz'd by the Christian Magistrate, which is more my brethren,
but as for us, the settled Ministry of christ in England, it's known to the world, we Are owned and authorized by the Christian Magistrate, which is more my brothers,
yea, that something is necessarily to be done by the Christian Magistrate for the full and regular Ordination of Ministers, is jointly agreed on, both by Calvenists and Lutherans, Pralatians, Presbyterians;
yea, that something is necessarily to be done by the Christian Magistrate for the full and regular Ordination of Ministers, is jointly agreed on, both by Calvinists and Lutherans, Pralatians, Presbyterians;
Not willing to give all to the Minister with Papists; to the Magistrate with Erastians; or to the people with Libertines, Anabaptists, Brownists, &c. and to the purpose Amesius speaks, who goes as far in this as we desire,
Not willing to give all to the Minister with Papists; to the Magistrate with Erastians; or to the people with Libertines, Anabaptists, Brownists, etc. and to the purpose Ames speaks, who Goes as Far in this as we desire,
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for the care that all things (saith he, touching ordination of Ministers he means) be done rightly, belongs to the Magistrate, whose care and power doth contribute to us; and disown you.
for the care that all things (Says he, touching ordination of Ministers he means) be done rightly, belongs to the Magistrate, whose care and power does contribute to us; and disown you.
for we rather look on the favour of Magistrates and their assistance, as a plain performance of that Gospel-promise, Isa. 49. 23. And Kings shall be thy nursing Fathers,
for we rather look on the favour of Magistrates and their assistance, as a plain performance of that Gospel promise, Isaiah 49. 23. And Kings shall be thy nursing Father's,
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Now thus far we are come, having stept beyond you four degrees into the approbation of indifferent men, we are found to have for our wartant in preaching what you have or allow,
Now thus Far we Are come, having stepped beyond you four Degrees into the approbation of indifferent men, we Are found to have for our wartant in preaching what you have or allow,
for further yet we excell you in this, that we have besides what the Word requires either to make or manifest us true Ministers, the sum of the following Section. SECT. III.
for further yet we excel you in this, that we have beside what the Word requires either to make or manifest us true Ministers, the sum of the following Section. SECT. III.
and for that end, I pitch on, and desire you to turn to that of Act. 13. 1, 2, 3. where we shall learn two things. 1. What the nature of Ordination is. 2. In whose hands the power of ordaining lies.
and for that end, I pitch on, and desire you to turn to that of Act. 13. 1, 2, 3. where we shall Learn two things. 1. What the nature of Ordination is. 2. In whose hands the power of ordaining lies.
and so it is a separating, v. 2. or a sending, v. 3. as also, with respect to its Ceremonies, v. 3. which are fasting and prayer, and laying on of hands:
and so it is a separating, v. 2. or a sending, v. 3. as also, with respect to its Ceremonies, v. 3. which Are fasting and prayer, and laying on of hands:
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though God requires they observe his rule in ordaining, yet the omission of some circumstances doth not null the substance of any ordination had without them:
though God requires they observe his Rule in ordaining, yet the omission of Some Circumstances does not null the substance of any ordination had without them:
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and I had rather have the substance only, viz. a setting apart by lawfull Ministers authoriz'd thereto by the Civill Magistrate, without the other convenient ceremonies;
and I had rather have the substance only, viz. a setting apart by lawful Ministers authorized thereto by the Civil Magistrate, without the other convenient ceremonies;
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and then we say, that the substance which I take to be neer the same with vocation, is far more necessary then the circumstance of fasting, and prayer, and imposition of hands.
and then we say, that the substance which I take to be near the same with vocation, is Far more necessary then the circumstance of fasting, and prayer, and imposition of hands.
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but how? it must be by the calling of the rest, whereby they separate him for the work, which is the substance of Ordination; and without the same no man among them may take that honour unto himself.
but how? it must be by the calling of the rest, whereby they separate him for the work, which is the substance of Ordination; and without the same no man among them may take that honour unto himself.
All these ceremonies of Ordination are to be gladly received, when they may be had and readily submitted to, not as the practice but the plain institution of the blessed Apostles;
All these ceremonies of Ordination Are to be gladly received, when they may be had and readily submitted to, not as the practice but the plain Institution of the blessed Apostles;
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These Rules I doubt not, to lay before you as the conclusions of Protestant Divines, and very much favoured by holy Scripture, which would easily appear, should I not exceed the bounds of a Sermon.
These Rules I doubt not, to lay before you as the conclusions of Protestant Divines, and very much favoured by holy Scripture, which would Easily appear, should I not exceed the bounds of a Sermon.
Now as these do keep the middle way 'twixt Papists (upholding the absolute necessity of Ordination in all cases) and Socinians and Anabaptists, that deny it to be any way necessary at all:
Now as these do keep the middle Way betwixt Papists (upholding the absolute necessity of Ordination in all cases) and socinians and Anabaptists, that deny it to be any Way necessary At all:
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so do they allow and maintain the lawfullnesse of out Ordination and calling to the Word of the Ministery, both now and heretofore in the Church of England; being no other but what is most clearly and evidently gathered from the Text before us, this Act. 13. 2, 3. with many other places.
so do they allow and maintain the lawfulness of out Ordination and calling to the Word of the Ministry, both now and heretofore in the Church of England; being no other but what is most clearly and evidently gathered from the Text before us, this Act. 13. 2, 3. with many other places.
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this their call then, must needs be ordinary: which is more plain too, if we consider the work is the work of ordinary Ministers hereunto they are called, viz. to preach, ver. 5. and to ordain others, cap. 14. 23. they having an extraordinary call before, that need not be repeated;
this their call then, must needs be ordinary: which is more plain too, if we Consider the work is the work of ordinary Ministers hereunto they Are called, viz. to preach, ver. 5. and to ordain Others, cap. 14. 23. they having an extraordinary call before, that need not be repeated;
and though this hath much weight in it doubtlesse, and nothing lesse then presumption will offer to question the uninterrupted practice of the Churches throughout all ages,
and though this hath much weight in it doubtless, and nothing less then presumption will offer to question the uninterrupted practice of the Churches throughout all ages,
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since the primitive times yet let us consider, Was it not so also from the beginning? do we reade of any other Ordination in the Primitive Churches but this? Did not Paul and Barnabas ordain others in the same manner? Act. 14. 23. Did not Paul charge Timothy with the same order, (the negative command containing an affirmative) when he said, Lay hands suddenly on no man, 1 Tim. 5, 22? and did not the Apostles take the same course in Act. 6?
since the primitive times yet let us Consider, Was it not so also from the beginning? do we read of any other Ordination in the Primitive Churches but this? Did not Paul and Barnabas ordain Others in the same manner? Act. 14. 23. Did not Paul charge Timothy with the same order, (the negative command containing an affirmative) when he said, Lay hands suddenly on no man, 1 Tim. 5, 22? and did not the Apostles take the same course in Act. 6?
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and all that we can gather from such a non-mentioning of them, is this, that the Ceremonies seem to be of weaker necessity then the substance of our call, which is still most carefully noted and expressed by the holy Ghost in every place, that mentions any thing of Ordination;
and all that we can gather from such a non-mentioning of them, is this, that the Ceremonies seem to be of Weaker necessity then the substance of our call, which is still most carefully noted and expressed by the holy Ghost in every place, that mentions any thing of Ordination;
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and laying on of hands, is forbidden, or where another way or course is appointed and used? we may not safely lay aside the old, much lesse presume to invent a new: alas!
and laying on of hands, is forbidden, or where Another Way or course is appointed and used? we may not safely lay aside the old, much less presume to invent a new: alas!
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what harm or danger is there in fasting and praier? the most happy Christian means to solemnize and speed an important businesse? or in laying on of hands;
what harm or danger is there in fasting and prayer? the most happy Christian means to solemnize and speed an important business? or in laying on of hands;
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The second expression that discovers the finger of the holy Ghost here, we have (immediately after the Churches Ordination, ver. 3.) in ver. 4. so they being sent forth by the holy Ghost, Whence,
The second expression that discovers the finger of the holy Ghost Here, we have (immediately After the Churches Ordination, ver. 3.) in ver. 4. so they being sent forth by the holy Ghost, Whence,
2. The Ministeriall persons sending or ordaining here, you have described in ver, 3. Such as ministred to the Lord, by office, Ministers: and nam'd, vers. 1. 1. From their Offices, Certain Prophets and Teachers. 2. By their proper names, Barnabas, Simeon, Lucius, Manaen, and Saul.
2. The Ministerial Persons sending or ordaining Here, you have described in ver, 3. Such as ministered to the Lord, by office, Ministers: and named, vers. 1. 1. From their Offices, Certain prophets and Teachers. 2. By their proper names, Barnabas, Simeon, Lucius, Manaen, and Saul.
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nor yet can they be the body of the people without any Officers, to silence the Anabaptists, Brownists, &c. the power of ordaining lies then in the hands of Prophets and Teachers: of ordinary teachers as well as of extraordinary Prophets, else it would have been said, that the Prophets onely laid hands on them:
nor yet can they be the body of the people without any Officers, to silence the Anabaptists, Brownists, etc. the power of ordaining lies then in the hands of prophets and Teachers: of ordinary Teachers as well as of extraordinary prophets, Else it would have been said, that the prophets only laid hands on them:
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yea, of Prophets, not as such, but as they were Teachers (the greater ever containing the lesse) for as we never finde that it was proper to Prophets, as so, to ordain;
yea, of prophets, not as such, but as they were Teachers (the greater ever containing the less) for as we never find that it was proper to prophets, as so, to ordain;
and Prophets, as supplying the place, and doing the office of ordinary Teachers, that are to succeed to the end of the world, Eph. 4. Whence the note and Observation is,
and prophets, as supplying the place, and doing the office of ordinary Teachers, that Are to succeed to the end of the world, Ephesians 4. Whence the note and Observation is,
1. If the power of ordaining had lain in the hands of extrordinary Officers only, there had been no way left for the perpetuation of a Gospel-Ministery, which Christ hath resolv'd to continue in the world to the end thereof.
1. If the power of ordaining had lain in the hands of extraordinary Officers only, there had been no Way left for the perpetuation of a Gospel-Ministery, which christ hath resolved to continue in the world to the end thereof.
as appears abundantly, As my Father sent me, so send I you, saith Christ, this seems to be spoken in answer to secret Objections which the Apostles made against their call to preach the Gospel:
as appears abundantly, As my Father sent me, so send I you, Says christ, this seems to be spoken in answer to secret Objections which the Apostles made against their call to preach the Gospel:
as if they had said by what authority do or may we preach? why, do not doubt saies Christ, My Father sent me, and in his sending me he gave me Authority to send others;
as if they had said by what Authority do or may we preach? why, do not doubt Says christ, My Father sent me, and in his sending me he gave me authority to send Others;
Persons ordaining are Prophets and Teachers: and persons ordained in this ordinary sending what power receive they? they are sent 'tis most apparent by an ordinary sending,
Persons ordaining Are prophets and Teachers: and Persons ordained in this ordinary sending what power receive they? they Are sent it's most apparent by an ordinary sending,
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and what to do I pray you? why to preach ver. 5. and to ordain Elders in every Church, c. 13. 23. clearly intimating, that Ministers by their very Ordination have power to ordain as well as to preach.
and what to do I pray you? why to preach for. 5. and to ordain Elders in every Church, c. 13. 23. clearly intimating, that Ministers by their very Ordination have power to ordain as well as to preach.
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4. If a Presbytery have power to ordain, then ordinary Ministers have power to ordain: for a Presbytery is nothing but a Colledge-combination or company of Presbyters or ordinary Ministers.
4. If a Presbytery have power to ordain, then ordinary Ministers have power to ordain: for a Presbytery is nothing but a Colledge-combination or company of Presbyters or ordinary Ministers.
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for if it was counted an act of the Presbytery when Apostles were there, it appears that the Apostles joyning with ordinary Elders, acted as Elders and not as Apostles or extraordinary Officers:
for if it was counted an act of the Presbytery when Apostles were there, it appears that the Apostles joining with ordinary Elders, acted as Elders and not as Apostles or extraordinary Officers:
there being Apostles in the Presbytery that doeth ordain, and yet Ordination is said to be done by the Presbytery, cleerly shews, that Ordination is a proper act of an ordinary Presbytery,
there being Apostles in the Presbytery that doth ordain, and yet Ordination is said to be done by the Presbytery, clearly shows, that Ordination is a proper act of an ordinary Presbytery,
and for the consequence, I say, much more: but how so? why, because (à pari) the people, where there are no Ministers to do their work, have power to Ordain, by the warrant of necessity:
and for the consequence, I say, much more: but how so? why, Because (à Pair) the people, where there Are no Ministers to do their work, have power to Ordain, by the warrant of necessity:
And now that that confirms me about all doubting touching the Ordination of ordinary Officers, is the practice of the primitive Churches, next the Apostles,
And now that that confirms me about all doubting touching the Ordination of ordinary Officers, is the practice of the primitive Churches, next the Apostles,
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for still there were ordinary Presbyters joyned with them, and they themselves were no more but ordinary Presbyters, though they thought themselves more:
for still there were ordinary Presbyters joined with them, and they themselves were no more but ordinary Presbyters, though they Thought themselves more:
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and so by consequence the Ministers of Christ, if there were any, which may not be doubted? Yea therefore remarkeable providence did seal to their Ministery immediately, upon their leaving Rome, being used by God to preach that doctrine and presse that command, Come out of her my people:
and so by consequence the Ministers of christ, if there were any, which may not be doubted? Yea Therefore remarkable providence did seal to their Ministry immediately, upon their leaving Room, being used by God to preach that Doctrine and press that command, Come out of her my people:
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And when God by them had drawn his people into the wildernesse, he did feed them there by the same Pastors, Rev. 12. 6, and 14. which helps me to conclude, that as the best of the members leaving Rome were owned by God for the true Church;
And when God by them had drawn his people into the Wilderness, he did feed them there by the same Pastors, Rev. 12. 6, and 14. which helps me to conclude, that as the best of the members leaving Room were owned by God for the true Church;
so the first of the Ministers leaving Rome, were acknowledged by God for the true Ministery, every man abiding in that calling wherein he was called, whether members or Ministers.
so the First of the Ministers leaving Room, were acknowledged by God for the true Ministry, every man abiding in that calling wherein he was called, whither members or Ministers.
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and if their outward call be question'd, it is no great matter, since both we and our adversaries agree in this, that in such a strait and a case so extraordinary as that was, the people are bound to chuse and call a Minister;
and if their outward call be questioned, it is no great matter, since both we and our Adversaries agree in this, that in such a strait and a case so extraordinary as that was, the people Are bound to choose and call a Minister;
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and that is this, That Rome was not so far Antichristian then, but that she had some of the Ordinances of the true, though not pure; and that though she had plaid the Harlot before,
and that is this, That Room was not so Far Antichristian then, but that she had Some of the Ordinances of the true, though not pure; and that though she had played the Harlot before,
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yet she had not an expresse and absolute divorce till the Councel of Trent. When she by a publick deliberate Councel dis-own'd and razed the fundamentals of Religion, which she had not done before:
yet she had not an express and absolute divorce till the Council of Trent. When she by a public deliberate Council disowned and razed the fundamentals of Religion, which she had not done before:
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that that makes me of this mind is, Rome we say, was not built in a day, The Mysterie of iniquity, that disease of Rome had its rise and increase before its state: and so far its certain, that she was not at her height, before this deadly and desperate fit of the Councel of Trent, as appears,
that that makes me of this mind is, Room we say, was not built in a day, The Mystery of iniquity, that disease of Room had its rise and increase before its state: and so Far its certain, that she was not At her height, before this deadly and desperate fit of the Council of Trent, as appears,
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1. Because those grosse fundamentall errours that are now so firmly laid in the Church of Rome, by the Councell of Trent, and which carrieth so great a stroak in the seating of Antichrist there; were not only complained of, declaimed against by private single Ministers, both in their Preaching and Printing,
1. Because those gross fundamental errors that Are now so firmly laid in the Church of Rome, by the Council of Trent, and which Carrieth so great a stroke in the seating of Antichrist there; were not only complained of, declaimed against by private single Ministers, both in their Preaching and Printing,
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but disowned by Decrees made against the most dangerous of them by publick Counsels: and we do hardly read of any former Counsel, that did not onely not establish all the Errors or the grossest of the Errors of the Counsel of Trent;
but disowned by Decrees made against the most dangerous of them by public Counsels: and we do hardly read of any former Counsel, that did not only not establish all the Errors or the Grossest of the Errors of the Counsel of Trent;
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There are six chief or Cardinal Errors of the Church of Rome, The Popes supremacie; the dividing of the Bread and Wine in the Sacrament; allowing the people no Wine:
There Are six chief or Cardinal Errors of the Church of Rome, The Popes supremacy; the dividing of the Bred and Wine in the Sacrament; allowing the people no Wine:
the Worshipping of Images, the denyall of the Bible to the common people, Justification by works, and beleeving of Traditions. Now these six were never established together by any Councel,
the Worshipping of Images, the denial of the bible to the Common people, Justification by works, and believing of Traditions. Now these six were never established together by any Council,
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but the Councel of Trent. Ye•, 1. The Popes Supremacie was decree'd against by the Councels of Calcedon, Affrick, Milevi, Constantinople, and Basil. 2. Communicating in both kinds was decreed by the Councel of Basil, 3. The Divine Worshipping of Images was forbidden in the second Nicen Councel. 4. The Councel of Nice decreed, that no Christian should be without a Bible.
but the Council of Trent. Ye•, 1. The Popes Supremacy was decreed against by the Counsels of Calcedon, Affrick, Milevi, Constantinople, and Basil. 2. Communicating in both Kinds was decreed by the Council of Basil, 3. The Divine Worshipping of Images was forbidden in the second Nicene Council. 4. The Council of Nicaenae decreed, that no Christian should be without a bible.
5. And Thomas an acknowledged writer of the Roman faith in his time, denieth Justification by works, Ceremoniall or Morall. 6. And we were never bound or commanded to beleeve tradition untill the Councel of Trent decreed it.
5. And Thomas an acknowledged writer of the Roman faith in his time, Denieth Justification by works, Ceremonial or Moral. 6. And we were never bound or commanded to believe tradition until the Council of Trent decreed it.
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or so deeply died with Antichristianism, as now she is made by the councell of Trent; where they are all and many more ratified as firm as hell can make them:
or so deeply died with Antichristianism, as now she is made by the council of Trent; where they Are all and many more ratified as firm as hell can make them:
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yea, very much of Antichristianism was brought to Rome with the last of these errours touching tradition, which she had not before the councell of Trent; for the Church is built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets, the Scriptures:
yea, very much of Antichristianism was brought to Room with the last of these errors touching tradition, which she had not before the council of Trent; for the Church is built upon the Foundation of the Apostles and prophets, the Scriptures:
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and what doth weaken the Scripture more, and consequently the foundation of the Church more then making tradition (contrary to it) a compartner with it in the Churches faith? especially,
and what does weaken the Scripture more, and consequently the Foundation of the Church more then making tradition (contrary to it) a compartner with it in the Churches faith? especially,
3. In that these were more solemnly, seriously, deliberately, publikely, by the pretended representative of the whole Church, as the work of years delivered, ratified,
3. In that these were more solemnly, seriously, deliberately, publicly, by the pretended representative of the Whole Church, as the work of Years Delivered, ratified,
My second Argument to prove, that Rome was not at the state or height of this her disease, till the Councell of Trent is taken from her strange motions all along after Reformation;
My second Argument to prove, that Room was not At the state or height of this her disease, till the Council of Trent is taken from her strange motions all along After Reformation;
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and such was the power of the better people, that the malignant party were forc'd to yeeld, to call a counsell, on which there lay great hopes, being called indeed upon fairest pretences:
and such was the power of the better people, that the malignant party were forced to yield, to call a counsel, on which there lay great hope's, being called indeed upon Fairest pretences:
who doth not leave while and where there is any the least appearance of hope, of which it seems there was not a little in the Church of Rome till the Councel of Trent.
who does not leave while and where there is any the least appearance of hope, of which it seems there was not a little in the Church of Room till the Council of Trent.
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the Brownists most of them acknowledge that the Church of Rome had true Baptism, and some of them (as Johnson, &c. held, they had true Ordination too:
the Brownists most of them acknowledge that the Church of Rome had true Baptism, and Some of them (as Johnson, etc. held, they had true Ordination too:
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Now let us consider, could there be true and valid Ordinances in a Church, that was true in no respect? could there (do we think) be Ordinances of Christ, in a Church that was wholly Antichrist? Suppose the Church of Turks should baptize, In the Name of the Father, Son,
Now let us Consider, could there be true and valid Ordinances in a Church, that was true in no respect? could there (do we think) be Ordinances of christ, in a Church that was wholly Antichrist? Suppose the Church of Turks should baptise, In the Name of the Father, Son,
for were not they ordained Ministers of the Church of Rome? and consequently of a true Church? were not they ordained Ministers by the Church of Rome before the Councell of Trent? none can deny it:
for were not they ordained Ministers of the Church of Rome? and consequently of a true Church? were not they ordained Ministers by the Church of Room before the Council of Trent? none can deny it:
None may object, That this is nothing to the Ministery of England, for certain it is, that the Ministery of England (as may be remarkably observed) had their Ordination (if from Rome) before the Councel of Trent sate;
None may Object, That this is nothing to the Ministry of England, for certain it is, that the Ministry of England (as may be remarkably observed) had their Ordination (if from Room) before the Council of Trent sat;
2. The Churches and Ministery of England, in the time of that councell broke off from Rome, abolisht her fatall decrees touching Religion, demolish't the images and statues in the Temples, and thus began the blessed Reformation in England, even then while Rome was declining towards Antichristianism.
2. The Churches and Ministry of England, in the time of that council broke off from Room, abolished her fatal decrees touching Religion, demolished the Images and statues in the Temples, and thus began the blessed Reformation in England, even then while Rome was declining towards Antichristianism.
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3. Who then can choose but see and know that our first Reformers had (I mean the Ministers) their Ordination in a true Church, from true Ministers? and we from them,
3. Who then can choose but see and know that our First Reformers had (I mean the Ministers) their Ordination in a true Church, from true Ministers? and we from them,
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unto this very day, have had a succession of lawfull Ministers in our Churches, and upwards from them ever since we bore the name of a Church, which may I suppose be computed to be upwards of 1500. years.
unto this very day, have had a succession of lawful Ministers in our Churches, and upward from them ever since we boar the name of a Church, which may I suppose be computed to be upward of 1500. Years.
yet could not this blame but commend our leaving of her; for we separate not from her as a Church, much lesse as true: but as a corrupt and Apostate Church:
yet could not this blame but commend our leaving of her; for we separate not from her as a Church, much less as true: but as a corrupt and Apostate Church:
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Just as the Non-conformists who did not joyn in some acts of worship heretofore, because they could not safely do it, without having communion with corruption in it;
Just as the nonconformists who did not join in Some acts of worship heretofore, Because they could not safely do it, without having communion with corruption in it;
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and so far as the state of Rome is Antichrist, but sitting in the Temple (or universall Church) of God; (for though she would usurp her self to be the whole visible Church,
and so Far as the state of Room is Antichrist, but sitting in the Temple (or universal Church) of God; (for though she would usurp her self to be the Whole visible Church,
though she would be as God there:) Now is it a sin for one particular Church to deny communion with a sister Church in those things wherein she offends, both God and other Churches? no, doubtlesse;
though she would be as God there:) Now is it a since for one particular Church to deny communion with a sister Church in those things wherein she offends, both God and other Churches? no, doubtless;
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Now Rome of right, and in Gods account, is but a sister, no mother Church, to the Church of England (what authority she had over it was usurp'd on her part,
Now Room of right, and in God's account, is but a sister, no mother Church, to the Church of England (what Authority she had over it was usurped on her part,
Now had the sister (in the word) denied to commit that folly with her brother, and escaped his hands by flying from him, she had done virtuously; then also if England broke out of the hands of her sister Rome, and would not commit that Adultery with her, she hath praise of God for obeying his will and command, If a sinner entice, consent thou not:
Now had the sister (in the word) denied to commit that folly with her brother, and escaped his hands by flying from him, she had done virtuously; then also if England broke out of the hands of her sister Room, and would not commit that Adultery with her, she hath praise of God for obeying his will and command, If a sinner entice, consent thou not:
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One particular Church bears some Analogy to another, like that of a member of a particular Church to another member of the same: two particular Churches are members of one universall; as two particular members are of one particular Church:
One particular Church bears Some Analogy to Another, like that of a member of a particular Church to Another member of the same: two particular Churches Are members of one universal; as two particular members Are of one particular Church:
Now what hath been said upon this particular, as it serves to pleade for o•r lawfull distance to the Church of Rome, though she should be found to be a true Church still;
Now what hath been said upon this particular, as it serves to plead for o•r lawful distance to the Church of Rome, though she should be found to be a true Church still;
and what of Popery she brought among us, was by force, so that by Q. Elizabeths gentle commands, we easily reduced our selves to our former profession of the Protestant truth:
and what of Popery she brought among us, was by force, so that by Q. Elizabeths gentle commands, we Easily reduced our selves to our former profession of the Protestant truth:
And lastly and chiefly ▪ many that could not turn from the truth in judgement o• practice, were known to fly for safety hence to other Churches beyond the Seas, where they remain'd in the day of our calamity,
And lastly and chiefly ▪ many that could not turn from the truth in judgement o• practice, were known to fly for safety hence to other Churches beyond the Seas, where they remained in the day of our calamity,
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First, None can doubt but we are as Full of Jesuites Now, (who love rather to fish in pudled waters, where they, nor their baits may be seen) as before these distracted, unsetled times,
First, None can doubt but we Are as Full of Jesuits Now, (who love rather to Fish in puddled waters, where they, nor their baits may be seen) as before these distracted, unsettled times,
Secondly, and if the Iesuites be busie among us (as no doubt they are) where and with whom are they likeliest to be, with you or us? They cannot be thought to be among the Ministers,
Secondly, and if the Iesuites be busy among us (as no doubt they Are) where and with whom Are they likeliest to be, with you or us? They cannot be Thought to be among the Ministers,
and one among the rest to the purpose in hand, That we are Schismaticks to the Church of Rome; and having unlawfully Rent our selves from her, we ought to return again unto her.
and one among the rest to the purpose in hand, That we Are Schismatics to the Church of Room; and having unlawfully Rend our selves from her, we ought to return again unto her.
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Suppose what you will, that when we left Rome, she was a true or a false Church, we have yet a defence invincible (though I suppose each one of the former Answers are sufficient satisfaction to men that will take it) it is this:
Suppose what you will, that when we left Room, she was a true or a false Church, we have yet a defence invincible (though I suppose each one of the former Answers Are sufficient satisfaction to men that will take it) it is this:
I never heard or read of any that owned the name of a Christian, (the Papist excepted) but did acknowledge, that Luther, and the rest of our first Reformers, were lawfull Ministers, whether their Call was an extraordinary, or an ordinarie Call.
I never herd or read of any that owned the name of a Christian, (the Papist excepted) but did acknowledge, that Luther, and the rest of our First Reformers, were lawful Ministers, whither their Call was an extraordinary, or an ordinary Call.
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for when our first Reformers ordained others, they did not regard Ordination as the Channel of Rome had defiled and defaced it; but they fetch the manner of it from the Fountain, the Scripture, Apostolical Example, and Institution;
for when our First Reformers ordained Others, they did not regard Ordination as the Channel of Rome had defiled and defaced it; but they fetch the manner of it from the Fountain, the Scripture, Apostolical Exampl, and Institution;
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and what corruptions it received in Bishops days, it is reformed from, of late also, and our Ordination is at this day, according to the Word in every thing:
and what corruptions it received in Bishops days, it is reformed from, of late also, and our Ordination is At this day, according to the Word in every thing:
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Thus far then we have proceeded, namely, to prove the Ministery of England to be of Christ, from our adversaries own Principles, from the principles of any indifferent men;
Thus Far then we have proceeded, namely, to prove the Ministry of England to be of christ, from our Adversaries own Principles, from the principles of any indifferent men;
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and lastly from the grounds and principles of the Word: But from the Word we promised two things: First, to make it appear that the Ministers in England have whatsoever the Word requires to make them so:
and lastly from the grounds and principles of the Word: But from the Word we promised two things: First, to make it appear that the Ministers in England have whatsoever the Word requires to make them so:
The first is its fruit: By their fruit ye shall know them, saith our Saviour of false Teachers: By their fruit, that is, their Doctrine, you shall know them;
The First is its fruit: By their fruit you shall know them, Says our Saviour of false Teachers: By their fruit, that is, their Doctrine, you shall know them;
Suppose it be doubted where the Ministrie of Christ is, if it be but granted that he hath a Ministerie somewhere in the world, it is easily concluded to be, where the Doctrine of Christ is preach'd:
Suppose it be doubted where the Ministry of christ is, if it be but granted that he hath a Ministry somewhere in the world, it is Easily concluded to be, where the Doctrine of christ is preached:
Who is Paul, Who Apollos, but Ministers by whom you believe? would you know who they are? observe their work, by them you come to believe, and then doe not question but they are Ministers: why so? Because Faith is the gift of God, which he doth not usually give but by his Ministers hands:
Who is Paul, Who Apollos, but Ministers by whom you believe? would you know who they Are? observe their work, by them you come to believe, and then do not question but they Are Ministers: why so? Because Faith is the gift of God, which he does not usually give but by his Ministers hands:
and how shall they hear that is so as to beleeve without a Preacher, a sent Preacher? Whence we conclude, that ordinary Conversion wrought by our Ministrie is an infallible mark of the truth of our Ministerie,
and how shall they hear that is so as to believe without a Preacher, a sent Preacher? Whence we conclude, that ordinary Conversion wrought by our Ministry is an infallible mark of the truth of our Ministry,
I dare not say but a true and honest Minister may have cause to complain, That he hath stretched forth his hands all the day long unto disobedient and gain-saying people.
I Dare not say but a true and honest Minister may have cause to complain, That he hath stretched forth his hands all the day long unto disobedient and gainsaying people.
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And further, he that endeavours to wash a Black-more, to reform a people that hate to be reformed, and reaps no visible fruit of his labours, he wants an apparent Seal to his Commission, to make its authority known to such as question it:
And further, he that endeavours to wash a Blackmore, to reform a people that hate to be reformed, and reaps no visible fruit of his labours, he Wants an apparent Seal to his Commission, to make its Authority known to such as question it:
but this is our comfort, that we can say without boasting (the Ministery of England in every age) can say to our Churches, to our Friends and Enemies, Ye are the Seal of our Apostleship, God hath Sealed our Commission in your Conversion and Confirmation, in your increase in knowledge, grace and comfort:
but this is our Comfort, that we can say without boasting (the Ministry of England in every age) can say to our Churches, to our Friends and Enemies, You Are the Seal of our Apostleship, God hath Sealed our Commission in your Conversion and Confirmation, in your increase in knowledge, grace and Comfort:
if they will but acknowledge themselves, or God; their own principles are Gods Word;) then there is a great and heavy sin lying at the door of all such as doe offer to preach publickly without a Call.
if they will but acknowledge themselves, or God; their own principles Are God's Word;) then there is a great and heavy since lying At the door of all such as do offer to preach publicly without a Call.
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What! Preach without a Call, in true Churches, that are blest with a true and setled Ministery! Was ever such a thing heard or read of, that was not pursued and overtaken by some horrid judgement? O who can think of the sad effects that this one piece of mad disorder hath wrought upon this poor land of ours, without an amazed, bleeding heart!
What! Preach without a Call, in true Churches, that Are blessed with a true and settled Ministry! Was ever such a thing herd or read of, that was not pursued and overtaken by Some horrid judgement? Oh who can think of the sad effects that this one piece of mad disorder hath wrought upon this poor land of ours, without an amazed, bleeding heart!
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it hath put the Foundations out of frame; and what can the righteous doe? But shall not God be avenged on such a Nation as this? I wonder the earth doth not open again, and swallow both them and us up quick.
it hath put the Foundations out of frame; and what can the righteous doe? But shall not God be avenged on such a nation as this? I wonder the earth does not open again, and swallow both them and us up quick.
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Was not the sin of Corah and his Company just the very same with the sin of these men? viz. A contemning of Gods Ministers? and was not their plea the very same? viz. That all the Lords people are holy;
Was not the since of Corah and his Company just the very same with the since of these men? viz. A contemning of God's Ministers? and was not their plea the very same? viz. That all the lords people Are holy;
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the sons of Levi, take too much upon them? Then, ô then, what patience is it, that bears up the earth under these men? that holds the heavens from falling upon them,
the Sons of Levi, take too much upon them? Then, o then, what patience is it, that bears up the earth under these men? that holds the heavens from falling upon them,
to be cast into a Gulf, (though not of the earth ) of error, which is worse, to be given over to a reprobate mind, and strong delusions to believe lies.
to be cast into a Gulf, (though not of the earth) of error, which is Worse, to be given over to a Reprobate mind, and strong delusions to believe lies.
which I am indeed inclined the rather to believe, because such was the punishment of the Jewish Nation for the lik• sinne: and what was that, but a killing the Prophets,
which I am indeed inclined the rather to believe, Because such was the punishment of the Jewish nation for the lik• sin: and what was that, but a killing the prophets,
and stoning them that were sent unto them? A rejecting Christ in the Ministery of the Gospel: And what was the judgement that fell upon them for this their sinne? even that that hath remained as a Plague to their hearts;
and stoning them that were sent unto them? A rejecting christ in the Ministry of the Gospel: And what was the judgement that fell upon them for this their sin? even that that hath remained as a Plague to their hearts;
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they slumber with their sences lockt, their eyes are shut, their ears are stopt, they are in a maze, not knowing where nor how they are, nor what they would have, possest and troubled with the restless spirit of Giddy slumber: They strongly perswade themselves and others, that their eyes are open,
they slumber with their Senses locked, their eyes Are shut, their ears Are stopped, they Are in a maze, not knowing where nor how they Are, nor what they would have, possessed and troubled with the restless Spirit of Giddy slumber: They strongly persuade themselves and Others, that their eyes Are open,
and such is their misery, though men cry to them, and in their very ears, to awake and rouse them out of their dream, their ears are heavy, they cannot hear, or they cannot hear (at least) of that ear.
and such is their misery, though men cry to them, and in their very ears, to awake and rouse them out of their dream, their ears Are heavy, they cannot hear, or they cannot hear (At least) of that ear.
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If it be that we are cast upon the Heathens, Turks, or the like, where there is no Church nor Ministry, there every man is bound to make known the Gospel of Christ,
If it be that we Are cast upon the heathens, Turks, or the like, where there is no Church nor Ministry, there every man is bound to make known the Gospel of christ,
for private men to presume to Preach, is such a notable sin in the Scripture, that it is there condemned from heaven, in as great a remarkable vengeance from God, in Corah's company, and the Nation of the Jews, as any we reade of.
for private men to presume to Preach, is such a notable since in the Scripture, that it is there condemned from heaven, in as great a remarkable vengeance from God, in Corah's company, and the nation of the jews, as any we read of.
2. We must in a setled Church distinguish of Preaching publiquely, and Teaching privately; the later, which consists in private exhortation, reproof, comfort, counsel, and the like, every member in private conference ought to perform from a principle of love,
2. We must in a settled Church distinguish of Preaching publicly, and Teaching privately; the later, which consists in private exhortation, reproof, Comfort, counsel, and the like, every member in private conference ought to perform from a principle of love,
for the edification of the whole body: but for the first particular of the distinction, the thing we are only upon, the publique preaching of the word, it being an act of Office, doth belong peculiarly to Church Officers,
for the edification of the Whole body: but for the First particular of the distinction, the thing we Are only upon, the public preaching of the word, it being an act of Office, does belong peculiarly to Church Officers,
I mean by publike preaching, a presuming to declare the minde of God by expounding and applying the holy Scripture in the place of our Assemblies before the Church in the seat of the Minister or any other.
I mean by public preaching, a presuming to declare the mind of God by expounding and applying the holy Scripture in the place of our Assemblies before the Church in the seat of the Minister or any other.
and it is of women, whom we find in Scripture commended for private teaching, yet also forbidden there in publick Preaching, see Act. 18. 26. There Aquilla and Priscilla took Apollos unto them (it is said) and expounded the word: Mark, they took him to them, aside, into private,
and it is of women, whom we find in Scripture commended for private teaching, yet also forbidden there in public Preaching, see Act. 18. 26. There Aquilla and Priscilla took Apollos unto them (it is said) and expounded the word: Mark, they took him to them, aside, into private,
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For how shall they Preach except they be sent? That is, none can perform the Office of a Preacher (as just before, How shall they hear without a Preacher?) unless he be sent, that is,
For how shall they Preach except they be sent? That is, none can perform the Office of a Preacher (as just before, How shall they hear without a Preacher?) unless he be sent, that is,
Now, we never read of any in Scripture that were sent to preach, but they were thereby put into Office: yea this Preaching in the Text is expounded there, to be an exercise of one that is sent and none other:
Now, we never read of any in Scripture that were sent to preach, but they were thereby put into Office: yea this Preaching in the Text is expounded there, to be an exercise of one that is sent and none other:
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and this [ being sent ] doth expound it selfe, to make a Preacher, as in the last words of the fourteenth verse; and this word Preacher is never given to any in Scripture but to men in Office.
and this [ being sent ] does expound it self, to make a Preacher, as in the last words of the fourteenth verse; and this word Preacher is never given to any in Scripture but to men in Office.
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2. Sending excludes the call of gifts also; for we not imagine that every man that is fit (eo ipso) a Justice of Peace, ability is one thing, commission another:
2. Sending excludes the call of Gifts also; for we not imagine that every man that is fit (eo ipso) a justice of Peace, ability is one thing, commission Another:
as most evidently appears by that clear Text, Mat. 10. 1, 5. In the first verse they have their qualification, and in the fift they receive their Commission, and are bid goe: and therefore examination or proving of gifts is but the way to Ordination: as in the Epistles to Timothy and Titus doth plainly appear.
as most evidently appears by that clear Text, Mathew 10. 1, 5. In the First verse they have their qualification, and in the fift they receive their Commission, and Are bid go: and Therefore examination or proving of Gifts is but the Way to Ordination: as in the Epistles to Timothy and Titus does plainly appear.
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but sending is ever an act of Superiors. Desiring doth leave the power in the partee desir'd: but sending implyes the power to be in the partee sending. Desiring doth not,
but sending is ever an act of Superiors. Desiring does leave the power in the party desired: but sending Implies the power to be in the party sending. Desiring does not,
if thou beest not in all respects in the same condition, with that man thou lookst at in Scripture, his action is no pattern to thee. 2. That Examples in Scripture are not further to be imitated by us,
if thou Best not in all respects in the same condition, with that man thou Lookest At in Scripture, his actium is no pattern to thee. 2. That Examples in Scripture Are not further to be imitated by us,
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But secondly, as you have not one Word, so neither one Example in the holy Scripture that will stand you in stead in the least. Did not Apollos preach?
But secondly, as you have not one Word, so neither one Exampl in the holy Scripture that will stand you in stead in the least. Did not Apollos preach?
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and indeed the very word from whence this is immediately deriv'd, doth signifie the Gospel, or a good Message, and is derived from another word, which signifies a Messenger,
and indeed the very word from whence this is immediately derived, does signify the Gospel, or a good Message, and is derived from Another word, which signifies a Messenger,
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for certainly none could Prophesie but Prophets: And are all Prophets? No surely: Therefore expound the 31 verse with 29. and 32. and the matter is ended:
for Certainly none could Prophesy but prophets: And Are all prophets? No surely: Therefore expound the 31 verse with 29. and 32. and the matter is ended:
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All may prophesie; that is, All that are Prophets; let the Prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge, and all those that are Prophets may have time enough to speak by turn.
All may prophesy; that is, All that Are prophets; let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge, and all those that Are prophets may have time enough to speak by turn.
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even as soon as he was made a Christian (though not before, as some of you were) as you read Acts 26. 16. What now can you further urge for your selves? No more? O that the Lord would open your eyes, to see the Error and Danger of your wayes: Alas!
even as soon as he was made a Christian (though not before, as Some of you were) as you read Acts 26. 16. What now can you further urge for your selves? No more? O that the Lord would open your eyes, to see the Error and Danger of your ways: Alas!
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What can I do more than to pray for you? and to him that is able to restore your souls, to him to commend you, with him to leave you? Yet with you I desire to leave this advice,
What can I do more than to pray for you? and to him that is able to restore your Souls, to him to commend you, with him to leave you? Yet with you I desire to leave this Advice,
if that be too hard, and you will needs have the work that you would desire, seek and endeavour (by giving up your selves to be prov'd and ordain'd) the Office of a Bishop;
if that be too hard, and you will needs have the work that you would desire, seek and endeavour (by giving up your selves to be proved and ordained) the Office of a Bishop;
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WE are now attained to the last Conclusion, which is, That if for men to preach in a true Church, where there is a lawful Ministrie setled, be so great a sinne;
WE Are now attained to the last Conclusion, which is, That if for men to preach in a true Church, where there is a lawful Ministry settled, be so great a sin;
then doubtlesse, for any to forsake a true Church and a lawfull Ministerie, to follow and hear such sinfull Teachers, is a very great sinne too; Though alas!
then doubtless, for any to forsake a true Church and a lawful Ministry, to follow and hear such sinful Teachers, is a very great sin too; Though alas!
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and his Ministry: in that you doe thereby what in you lies to break and ruine all the Churches and Ministers of Christ in the world: in that you against expresse command, hear those Prophets that God never sent;
and his Ministry: in that you do thereby what in you lies to break and ruin all the Churches and Ministers of christ in the world: in that you against express command, hear those prophets that God never sent;
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Consider, O consider, I beseech you dearly beloved, and lay these things to heart: I perswade my self, that could you be serious and patient in weighing these things a while, you would be at a stand, if not face about.
Consider, Oh Consider, I beseech you dearly Beloved, and lay these things to heart: I persuade my self, that could you be serious and patient in weighing these things a while, you would be At a stand, if not face about.
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1. Consider, what good can you get (though you promise much) while you lie under that heavy curse, They shall not profit — you: That is, they doe you much hurt, and spirituall damage.
1. Consider, what good can you get (though you promise much) while you lie under that heavy curse, They shall not profit — you: That is, they do you much hurt, and spiritual damage.
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And doe you not find it by daily experience? Whom among you, but at his very entrance upon these wayes, hath the foundation of his whole Religion shaken immediately? I have wondred often at the frequent truth of this Observation,
And do you not find it by daily experience? Whom among you, but At his very Entrance upon these ways, hath the Foundation of his Whole Religion shaken immediately? I have wondered often At the frequent truth of this Observation,
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while so fair an advantage remains in your hands? However, if love cannot win and prevail, let the terror and fear of the Lord perswade, whose strict command I reade unto you, and leave upon you;
while so fair an advantage remains in your hands? However, if love cannot win and prevail, let the terror and Fear of the Lord persuade, whose strict command I read unto you, and leave upon you;
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Rev. 2. 5. Nulla possit • schismatius fieri tanta corruptio, i. emendatio, quanta est schismatis pernities, if the doctrine of faith be sound, Tert. de praes. cap. 6. Si confessio ejus convenit cum Scripturis verus est Christianus, sin minus falsus. Chrysost.
Rev. 2. 5. Nulla possit • schismatius fieri tanta Corruption, i. emendatio, quanta est Schisms pernities, if the Doctrine of faith be found, Tert de Praes. cap. 6. Si confessio His convenit cum Scriptures verus est Christian, since minus False. Chrysostom
Ecclefia est unius cōgregationis cujus membra inter se combinantur & ordinariè conveniunt uno in loco ad publicū Religionis exercitium. Ame. Med. p. 215. 2. 2.
Ecclesia est unius cōgregationis cujus membra inter se combinantur & ordinariè conveniunt Uno in loco ad publicū Religion Exercise. Am. Med. p. 215. 2. 2.
1. If either, we in these later daies should have some allowance above these first Apostolicall Churches, for the Church is compared to a ship, the which the more it sails upon the sea the more it is subject to leakes: to a house, that with oldness doth decay and grow to ruine, &c. See Morney of the Church. p. 38.
1. If either, we in these later days should have Some allowance above these First Apostolical Churches, for the Church is compared to a ship, the which the more it sails upon the sea the more it is Subject to leaks: to a house, that with oldness does decay and grow to ruin, etc. See Morney of the Church. p. 38.
The Sacraments of the Jewish Church in substance were one and the same with our Sacraments, Heb. 13. 8. 1 Cor. 10. 1, 2, 3. Joh. 8. 56. Joh. 6. 50, 51. Col. 1. 11, 12. 1 Cor. 5. 7. all say this except Papists, Anabaptists, Arminians and Socinians.
The Sacraments of the Jewish Church in substance were one and the same with our Sacraments, Hebrew 13. 8. 1 Cor. 10. 1, 2, 3. John 8. 56. John 6. 50, 51. Col. 1. 11, 12. 1 Cor. 5. 7. all say this except Papists, Anabaptists, Arminians and socinians.
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Rom. 3. 1, 2. The walls of the Church have their foundation in the Names (i) doctrine of the twelve Apostles; and is therefore the pillar and ground of truth. Rev. 21. 14.
Rom. 3. 1, 2. The walls of the Church have their Foundation in the Names (i) Doctrine of the twelve Apostles; and is Therefore the pillar and ground of truth. Rev. 21. 14.
3. Ames himself saith thus, Populus in judicando dirigi potest, ac ordinariè debet a judicio aliorum pastorum electionem vel praeeunte vel comitante. Cont. Bell. p. 96.
3. Ames himself Says thus, Populus in judicando dirigi potest, ac ordinariè debet a Judicio Aliorum Pastorum electionem vel praeeunte vel comitante. Cont. Bell. p. 96.
M. Seaman In talibus non est aliquid iterandum, saith a Canon of the Papists themselves. Note. Because Calvinists and Lutherans place so much in a Christian Magistrate.
M. Seaman In Talibus non est Aliquid iterandum, Says a Canon of the Papists themselves. Note. Because Calvinists and Lutherans place so much in a Christian Magistrate.
The necessity of imposition of hands in some respects, either for orders sake or to avoid scandal, is acknowledged by these Protestant Divines who make least account of laying on of hands. M. Seaman, p. 74. Note. Our Ordination is such as the word holds out.
The necessity of imposition of hands in Some respects, either for order sake or to avoid scandal, is acknowledged by these Protestant Divines who make least account of laying on of hands. M. Seaman, p. 74. Note. Our Ordination is such as the word holds out.
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Nos enim (sai. h Tarno. of the business in hand) necessarium existionamus secundum quid, nimirum quia citra scandalum omitti hodiè non potest, qui tot annos in ecclesiâ ufitatus fuit.
Nos enim (sai. h Tarno. of the business in hand) Necessary existionamus secundum quid, Nimirum quia citra scandalum omitti hodiè non potest, qui tot annos in ecclesiâ ufitatus fuit.
Seven Considerables to clear the Ordination of our first Reformers in England. You may reade those decrees in Sleidan. they were made An. 1539. as pag. 346. and abolisht An. 1547. as pag. 399.
Seven Considerables to clear the Ordination of our First Reformers in England. You may read those decrees in Sleidan. they were made Nias 1539. as page. 346. and abolished Nias 1547. as page. 399.
And as to this worst of the cases; Johnson the Separatist himself helps us: observing, that in case of Idolatry (in the time of the Law) the Levites and Priests that had revolted, upon Repentance kept their first functions without any new anointing or imposition of hands: and for this h• quotes many Texts.
And as to this worst of the cases; Johnson the Separatist himself helps us: observing, that in case of Idolatry (in the time of the Law) the Levites and Priests that had revolted, upon Repentance kept their First functions without any new anointing or imposition of hands: and for this h• quotes many Texts.
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